Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Rivers of the Far West was filled with drinking water until now.<< ...ummmm...I hope not, considering how gross they just described it! Seems like something got messed up in translation there
Originally Posted By irishfan Its good to hear the river will be refilled in time for the summer season, I hope the construction fences currently surrounding the area will be removed then and the view opened back up again.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>...ummmm...I hope not, considering how gross they just described it! Seems like something got messed up in translation there<<< Why not? I mean you can't drink it, but when the river needs water, I'm sure they filled it with drinking water. When they first filled it, they used drinking water. In Europe drinking water isn't chlorinated water. >>>Its good to hear the river will be refilled in time for the summer season, I hope the construction fences currently surrounding the area will be removed then and the view opened back up again.<<< Next year will be tough for visitors with so many attractions closed.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Why not? I mean you can't drink it, but when the river needs water, I'm sure they filled it with drinking water.<< The wording just made it sound like the river was where they stored all the drinking water for the park; if you go to a drinking fountain, I'd like to hope that the water comes from a separate system : ) Do they treat the water like in DL? The water there is dyed green and full of all sorts of chemicals to keep things from growing in it; DLP's river is more brown, but I can't tell if that's because it's dyed or just the color of the gunk in it (like at DCA)
Originally Posted By dagobert According to the article >>>Nearly 800 m3 of water will be stored in our water treatment plant<<< but I don't know if the water will be treated in the future.
Originally Posted By irishfan >>Do they treat the water like in DL? The water there is dyed green and full of all sorts of chemicals to keep things from growing in it; DLP's river is more brown, but I can't tell if that's because it's dyed or just the color of the gunk in it (like at DCA<< From memory back in the early days the water was dyed, but it doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
Originally Posted By dagobert Next year in June France is the host of the UEFA Euro 2016 Soccer Championship and I wonder if this has any influence on DLP in terms of attendance.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Interesting, I could see that going either way. Some people may skip a DLP trip because they're going to France for the games, while others might stop by DLP as long as they're already nearby. I imagine it will have some impact on crowds, but I have no idea in which direction
Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 I just read that in light of the attacks in France, they closed the parks for the day. Here's what the site said: "In light of the recent tragic events in France and in support of our community and the victims of these horrendous attacks, Disneyland Paris has decided not to open its theme parks on Saturday 14 November. Our thoughts and prayers go out to all of those affected by these horrible events." My sympathies go out to those affected, too. But I have a feeling that the tragedy goes much further than that, especially since the French president had declared a state of emergency. It was declared that France's borders be closed. I have a feeling that this will have a much bigger impact on the parks than just one day of closing in remembrance. Does this means that the borders will completely block anyone or anything at all going in or out, thus negatively impacting the parks? And does this border closure mean that the French market is closed for the duration (so no international movies, particularly American)?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros That's not too surprising considering the situation, but I have to wonder if they're doing it as a sign of solidarity, or an abundance of caution and security. On 9/11, WDW evacuated the parks and DLR never opened its parks for the day; this seems like a similar situation Anybody know if the parks will be open tomorrow (Sunday)? I'm sure they would be pretty empty since it's a scary time to be in such a public place, but keeping them closed seems like one of those "the terrorists are winning" situations. I remember how tough it was to be at a big place after 9/11, but it's a vital part of the healing process
Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 >> Anybody know if the parks will be open tomorrow (Sunday)? I'm sure they would be pretty empty since it's a scary time to be in such a public place, but keeping them closed seems like one of those "the terrorists are winning" situations. I remember how tough it was to be at a big place after 9/11, but it's a vital part of the healing process<< As part of the three-day mourning period, the Paris resort is going to be closed until at least Tuesday.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Wow, that's not pretty crazy. I assume the hotels are still operating, right? Given the border restrictions, I imagine that there are a lot of international guests who have gotten stuck there Any word on Disney Village? That would be pretty easy to keep closed, but I'm not sure the hotels have enough dining on their own to serve all their guests in the interim
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I should add that I spent the weekend around DL in Anaheim, and there were definitely increased security measures in effect. The bag check crew actually seemed to be checking bags, and there were some additional measures for the half marathon today including K9 units at the start/finish area and Angels Stadium
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>Any word on Disney Village? <<< At least yesterday (Sunday) DV was open to the guests.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>> I assume the hotels are still operating, right? << The hotel are operating. I think the parks would already operate too, but because of the 3 days national mourning ordered by the French government, the parks stay closed. I guess this decision was made by ED SCA because I read somewhere (I think Hollywood Reporter) that some cinema chains opened already again.
Originally Posted By dagobert It's a terrible situation and I'm not sure if DLP will bounce back soon. This will hit the resort badly. Yesterday I've seen some pictures of DLP posted by CMs and it looks creepy. Wonderful weather and an empty park.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Maybe it's just one of those things that works differently in different countries, but the concept of businesses staying closed out of a national day of mourning just seems so odd to me. Even after 9/11, the only businesses that stayed closed (at least as far as I can recall) were those that were directly impacted, like airlines, and they all tried to get back up and running as quickly as possible. There was definitely a long period before things got back to normal and we weren't all thinking about it constantly, but it seems strange to me to have an official observance of it Regardless, it is a very difficult situation and will take a long time for the city and country to heal. I'm sure DLP will be negatively impacted by it, since people will surely reconsider any planned trips to Paris
Originally Posted By dagobert I guess things are different between the US and Europe. Over here it's common to have a national day of mourning when terrible things happen, however usually shops and entertainment venues stay open. Until now France had never have to deal with such a horrible incident, so maybe it helps the people. In my opinion a one day closing would have been enough. I know that after 9/11 president Bush wanted the people to go shopping again, but honestly it felt more like he was more worried about the country's economy than about the feelings of the people. If Disneyland would have stayed open, the outcry would have been much worse. In Europe Disney doesn't have the reputation it has in the US. Here Disney is seen as a greedy corporation that doesn't care. So I think this descison was made with that in mind. I think it was a good thing to stay closed, one day might have been enough, because it shows respect to the victims and sometimes life shouldn't return to normal right on the next day.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I agree that they made the right decision to close the parks on Saturday. They would have opened just a few hours after the attack, which would have created a huge risk, regardless of the mourning period Generally in the US, we fly flags at half-mast after major incidents, and some businesses may close (particularly ones that were targeted or perceived threats), but generally the mourning process is left to the individual. Some of the difference may be due to the large physical and population size compared to a relatively small country like France, but I just can't imagine most Americans would appreciate being told how and when to mourn by the government. Most employers have pretty relaxed policies for individuals who are impacted, but >>I know that after 9/11 president Bush wanted the people to go shopping again, but honestly it felt more like he was more worried about the country's economy than about the feelings of the people.<< I can only speak for myself personally, but I saw it more as him acknowledging that it was a scary time to go out and do things, but that life must go on. There were constant rumors swirling that any local landmark was the next target (the anthrax letters didn't help), and it was really reassuring to have a voice saying that it was going to be okay. People were literally afraid to leave their homes (even those nowhere near the cities directly impacted) and were shocked by the events, so something needed to be done to return to normalcy. Although the merits of the action taken are debatable, I think that sitting around and focusing on the attacks wouldn't have been good for anybody >>Here Disney is seen as a greedy corporation that doesn't care.<< As in Europe, there are also plenty of people in the US (myself included at times) who see Disney as nothing more than a money-hungry corporation. Of course they're outweighed by the consumers who enjoy the products, but there's a very vocal minority against them. In academic circles there are large groups who think Disney is essentially the downfall of modern civilization, and would gladly take any opportunity to pounce on them. But I'm not sure that keeping a business open after a tragic event would greatly impact the general public's opinion in either direction
Originally Posted By dagobert Ferret, please don't get me wrong, I didn't want to criticize the way how the US handled 9/11. But you said yourself, things are different in other countries. Over here people expect a national mourning, just out of respect towards the victims. Flaggs are also lowered. I guess we have a different view on government than the US has. While you don't too much influence by the government, see public health care, these things are normal over here. I totally agree with you that four days are too much. DLP should have stayed closed on Saturday and Sunday, but reopen on Monday.
