Originally Posted By dshyates I just don't get the arguement. Its obvious wwhich is better I first went to WDW in 1971 when I was 7 and have been back many times, atayed at most of their resorts and I absolutely love the place. I went to DLR first in 2001. with a grumpy wife a fantastic 5 yr old princess and a 9 month old infant and strollr and luggage for the stroller and it cost a bazillion dollars that I had to pay for. And Disneyland at 35 w/kids isn't nearly as magical as WDW when your 7. First impressions are hard to get past.
Originally Posted By kennect Is anyone around here happy that we have two resorts in this country? It sounds as if some people wish we still only had one...As a kid growing up in Fl. I never dreamed that Disney would bring to us what people had enjoyed for years on the west coast....As far as all of the current complaints go it seems both properties have problems...Hopefully all of them will be taken care of with time...Neither property seems to be doing anything that special at the moment to make one better than the other...All of this constant comparising is getting really old...If you don't like a particular property simply don't visit it...That will end your frustration very quickly...Neither will be perfect all of the time and neither will be run like the OLC runs their parks at the moment...
Originally Posted By TP2000 wdw66>> "Walt Disney did design the MK so to say that DL has his personal touch and the MK doesn't is not true."<< Sadly, Walt did not design the Magic Kingdom. He didn't even have much input on it, or seem to concerned about it before his death. Walt died five years before the Magic Kingdom opened. On October 27th 1966, just two weeks before he passed away, Walt made a film about his "Florida Project" and to sell the Epcot concept to American industry. He showed a large map of the Florida property, and specifically pointed out the Magic Kingdom park slotted for the top of the map. The basic outlines of Bay Lake and some smaller lakes were there, but much of the surrounding infrastructure, roads and hotels were radically different in '66 than what actually got built five years later. The Magic Kingdom itself was very detailed on the map. And it was an exact duplicate of Disneyland, circa 1966. It had Small World's newly built show building, but no Haunted Mansion in New Orleans Square. You can see StorybookLand, Casey Jr. Circus Train, Matterhorn, Submarine Voyage, and all of the other exact buildings that comprised Disneyland in 1966. The new structures of Tomorrowland '67, or any facility built at Disneyland after 1967, were not shown on the map. When Walt died in 1966 the Magic Kingdom park in Florida was an exact duplicate of Disneyland, just thrown in there as a placekeeper. What Walt was most excited about was EPCOT and the attached business parks and model home communities all connected by PeopleMover and Monorail. None of that was built of course, but that's what Walt saw in '66. The Magic Kingdom Park in Florida had no design input by Walt Disney. In his last few weeks and months he was most concerned about getting his EPCOT concept down on paper and out for input from American industry. To say that Walt Disney designed anything in the Magic Kingdom, or thought of doing anything differently than Disneyland, is false. The Epcot '66 film is available on the Walt Disney Treasures: Tomorrowland DVD that came out a few years ago, and it's still available for purchase on Amazon. With a DVD you can freeze the frame, zoom in, and see Walt's cut and paste job from Disneyland for his Florida map very clearly.
Originally Posted By TP2000 "just two weeks before he passed away" in the above post should have been "just two MONTHS before he passed away".
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "All of this constant comparising is getting really old...If you don't like a particular property simply don't visit it...That will end your frustration very quickly" It's not like that. It's more like comparing Vanilla Ice Cream to Belgian Chocolate. Both are good, but some may prefer one to the other. The reality is I think most people prefer the one they grew up with. Natural really.
Originally Posted By jaycub <<I guess after 30 years of going to WDW maybe it's just a case of the familiarity, combined with the memories of our family vacations when my sons were just young boys,that makes me favor one over the other. Either way , I don't think anyone has to apologize for his or her preference.>> Excellent. I totally agree. No one should feel that they have to apologize for cherished family memories! <<Is anyone around here happy that we have two resorts in this country?>> I am kennect. I am a huge DLR fan, but this year we're going to WDW and I'm still just as excited to go there and experience the FL resort.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Yeah, the comparison is valid, mostly with the Magic Kingdoms, but it's still valid. The reason is because they are so similar, it's hard NOT to compare the two parks. The entire resorts, are another matter as they are vastly different. I like both resorts for different reasons. I prefer Disneyland to the MK any day of the week though. Everyone's opinion on that is different, and memories really do matter in how we percieve the parks. I have to say that I really like Disneyland's Downtown Disney much better than WDW's, but that's only an opinion.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Indeed gurgitoy2 - I prefer DL to MK, I prefer DCA to the Studios, I prefer Dl's DTD to WDW's, I prefer the Grand Californian to the hotels at WDW, I prefer the Napa Rose to V&A's or California Grill, I prefer Goofy's KItchen to Chef Mickey's. If only California had AKL & DAK, as well as Epcot, I would never have to go to Florida again.
Originally Posted By avromark To me I love variety, I'm not just a French Vanilla man, I'm a Strawberry Cheesecake man, A Rocky Road... the more the merrier. (Note this is not my philosophy in relationships however, in that I am strictly a 100% one flavour man).
Originally Posted By trekkeruss DLR has better weather, unless someone actually prefers 90º heat with 90% humidity.
Originally Posted By piratedeb413 Disneyland was the first, the original. It was also the first Disney park I have visited in my life so it holds a special place for me. After visiting Disneyworld for the first time I can honestly say it is not as "homey" as DL. DL is more intimate and yes, you can do it and California Adventure in about 2 days but there are also other options...other places to visit in the California area....Universal studios, Hollywood, San Diego Zoo, Seaworld, etc. Disneyworld is beautiful in and of itself but if you want to have a nice, relaxing vacation with less crowds DL is where you should go.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I'll dispute the less crowds part. DL park is more crowded than WDW's MK. DL may not have as many guests per year, but with it's smaller size and narrower walkways, it's much more crowded on average compared to the MK.
Originally Posted By SoThisIsLove It's a draw. And isn't it lovely? Bless Walt's heart, we're debating the best of both worlds in one lovely country. (My vote is to abstain at this time...never been to WDW)
Originally Posted By planodisney As someone who holds a special place in his heart for DL, I want to addres this MYTH, that the weather is better at DL, than WDW. It is true, that summer is extremely hot and humid in Orlando, the rest of the year, the weather is better than Anaheim. I am not even sure a water park would work in Anaheim, because much of the year it is just too cold. Water parks in Orlando are open almost all year. I do prefer DL over MK, DCA over MGM, and Downtown Disney at the DLR. Also, a love the fact that everything is within walking distance. On the other hand, DLR doesnt have anything to compare to AK or EPCOT.
Originally Posted By Bucky N Satchel >>>I'll dispute the less crowds part. DL park is more crowded than WDW's MK. DL may not have as many guests per year, but with it's smaller size and narrower walkways, it's much more crowded on average compared to the MK.<<< SOO true, unless it's a very slow day at DL, it's an excersise in frustration getting from one end of Adventureland to the other, and it's not very big.
Originally Posted By fzzybddy The only reason to go to WDW is the Lady & Tramp food palace, Tony's! Otherwise, go West young man!!!! ( to DL of course )
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>SOO true, unless it's a very slow day at DL, it's an excersise in frustration getting from one end of Adventureland to the other, and it's not very big.<< This is my biggest beef with DL. I only really enjoy it during that now endangered species, the off season, and even then only on weekdays. IMHO, weekends at DL any time of the year are too busy to be enjoyable.
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"FULL BLOWN E-Ticket.."<< The Subs coming in? A "full blown E-ticket" ride? Hardly.
Originally Posted By dlkozy When they start tearing down and rebuilding that stretch of shops/restaurants opposite the Jungle Cruise and IJ-that will be a HUGE human traffic mess!
Originally Posted By Labuda "and regarding new things, the MILI-second the first Sub goes diveing into the "Big Blue World", The Magic Kingdom of WDW will CEASE to be relevant. No ques. between a FULL BLOWN E-Ticket returning after <NINE> years and Wal-Mart Pooh play grounds and talking Monsters on digital screens." So you'll be resigning, then? Bummer. I liked having a pal who's a CM at the MK! :/
