Originally Posted By tangaroa For all practical purposes it's my own number, taken from the revenue of a few years back, divided by the attendance. A theme park is a very expensive place to keep running day in and day out, and it's simply unreasonable to think Disney can pay all the bills when you're only spending 20 dollars per visit.
Originally Posted By jimmy ya never know. having 50,000 people spend $20 each is a lot different than 20,000 people spending $20 each. but anyways, there are way too many variables, and i don't think any of us(unless we are part of TDA) are in the place to say whether or not dland is making a profit.
Originally Posted By tangaroa >ya never know. having 50,000 people >spend $20 each is a lot different than >20,000 people spending $20 each. That's exactly right, and that's why DL became so dependent on the APs the last few years without any major attraction openings. Without new rides, attendance would have plummeted, and to counter that, they pushed the AP program to get bodies into the park. When push comes to shove, it's better to have some revenue, than no revenue - even if it's less than what you could get otherwise. Short of building another huge blockbuster E ticket, discounting was the only way to keep people in the park. >but anyways, there are way too many >variables, and i don't think any of us >(unless we are part of TDA) are in the >place to say whether or not dland is >making a profit That's very true, and I'm not going to go out of my way to convince anyone I have some insider info - you can believe what you will. If Disneyland is considering eliminating, or reducing the AP program significantly - we at least have a theory why that would be.
Originally Posted By jimmy Yup. does anyone know anything TDA planning to do? i would be really sad if they took my pass away.
Originally Posted By Elderp "What if I told you Disneyland spent nearly 60 dollars accommodating each guest." That number seems very high to me. If I know Disney they are at the most spending 20-25 per guest at DL. DL has the reputation of paying the least wherever possible. With the exception of high level execs most CMs at DL are getting paid on the low end of the scale because Disney knows for every worker they have there are 10 more who would love to have the job just so they can say they work at DL. I can say I would expect at the end of this month APs prices to go up but I would be very surprised if they went much beyond where they are now. I know myself personally if they went over $300 I wouldn't buy them anymore. I am not saying I wouldn't go anymore but I wouldn't buy a AP.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Bill Trow, a child protection worker in Australia.....<< So maybe HE can do something about Steve "Crocodile Feeder" Irwin and his poor, endangered little baby. (See-- now I can hijack this topic to something that is even remotely related, as opposed to the completey unrelated ranting over APs that is going on here!)
Originally Posted By jimmy i guess that i go somewhere between 50-100 times a year, so if i got a pass that cost $500, that would only be like paying 5-10 bux everytime i go. so, i'm still very likely to still buy even if they do raise the price a bunch.
Originally Posted By Elderp "(See-- now I can hijack this topic to something that is even remotely related, as opposed to the completey unrelated ranting over APs that is going on here!)" LOL "Quit talking while I am interupting!"
Originally Posted By Donalds Gal As an LPer who lives in Texas, when I visit DL a few times a year I buy all my meals at DLR, I stay on site and buy merchandise and I have yet to get an AP rate. Think of the other APs who live outside the area and travel in to visit. I realize most AP probably live within driving distance for a day trip but not all. And, no matter how it happened, congrats to the lucky winners!!!
Originally Posted By Elderp Here is an interesting quote on international spending in OC: "International visitors to Orange County Odds were against an Australian being the 500,000,000th guest, since most Disneyland guests are from Southern California. Here are the top markets for international visitors to the Los Angeles/Orange County area in 2002: Mexico$ 1,414,000 Japan$ 399,000 Canada $ 397,000 United Kingdom$ 366,000 South Korea $ 171,000 Australia $ 124,000 Total $ 4,067,000 Source: CIC Research; Anaheim/Orangex County Visitor & Convention Bureau " You can get the complete story at: <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Default.aspx?id=3916714&p1=0" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/Defau lt.aspx?id=3916714&p1=0</a>
Originally Posted By debtee So where was this family from??? Some say Wenworthville some say Wentworth Falls. Both are in Sydney????? I have missed the news here yesterday and now don't know??? Also DlandDug <So maybe HE can do something about Steve "Crocodile Feeder" Irwin and his poor, endangered little baby.> Like this hasn't got enough coverage! LOL I take it you are being tongue-in-cheek?? I can't believe how much the american networks have covered this story! Our TV has been more interested that YOUR TV loves this story! LOL I'm not saying he was right to do it in front of cameras ( a publicity stunt) but his kids do LIVE in a Crocodile Zoo! They have to be trained how to respect them! Also he did have 6 co-workers trained in crocodiles around him in the enclosure in case anything went wrong!
