Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm not criticizing people who choose DL or any other park, but for ME personally, it's WDW. I live about 1 1/2 hours from a 6 Flags, I've no desire to ever go there. My boss has an AP for 6 Flags. To each his own. << The most important thing is doing what feels right for yourself.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> DLR natives refuse to accept that Epcot isn't just an anything - it's everything and more. Danny Kaye said/sang so. << I could spend my whole trip at Epcot. I end up there every night anyway.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> But beyond that ... and the sad fact as a Spirit of the night I need to figure out what one park 'might' be open past 8 or 9 p.m. to visit ... I very much just 'go with the flow. ... that's why on my last visit I saw HoP three times, rode TT three times, rode EE three times (maybe more), took three JCs, yet didn't take a safari once ... or ride Splash Mountain once ... or ride ToT once in 11 days (and those are three faves). ... I just let a WDW vacation happen. I can't imagine gping to DAK, and not going on Kilimanjaro Safaris
Originally Posted By MPierce <<Tell me something new.>> >> OK, those pumps make your ass look bigger. << <<Do you think the red one's are to flashy? Should I wear a more subdued color?>> >> Well, the red ones make you look very trampy. You might go with the taupe instead. And leave the pearls at home ... you're going to start looking like VBDAD soon! << Taupe just has no bling, and the pearls compliment my skin tone, and I've never owned a Tiara. >> Well, the thought of things like pre-ordering meals (possibly even with QSR) really scares me. << There are endless possibilities. >> Hey, if Mickey ever did that to you, I suggest you contact the authorities. He isn't supposed to do such things ... unless he's at Vista Way with Buzz and Pluto! << That reminds me of a CSI episode I saw once. Bring back William Peterson! <<The Mouse plugs you everytime you walk through the turnstiles, but it's a happy plug.>> >> Why can't I come back with something pithy here? (long week!) << Don't you hate it when real life gets in the way of fantasy! >> I don't want to see them 'Reinvent the Disney Park-going Experience' ... I want them to take what they've done so well in the past and build on it in a 21st century way. In other words, take DLP and TDS as templates AND IMPROVE on them in parks domestically and internationally. << That's all it would take. It doesn't have to be done overnight. Just a slow methodical improvement of WDW. >> And ENOUGH MARKETING CAMPAIGNS ALREADY!!! << You know that will never happen. They are addicted to them. They think folks won't come without some cleaver promotional gimmick.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> DisneySea should be no different, although I've heard it's been busier as of late. Much as I dislike it, the reality of TDL is that you have to pretty much go into commando mode for a couple of hours in the morning at least. If you don't show up well before opening time, and then move quickly to see some major stuff and collect those fastpasses early, you miss out on a lot. I find though that after 11am or so, with a couple of fastpasses in hand for later, my pace chills out quite a bit. I also save Fantasyland for the last hour of park operation if I'm so inclined to check out dark rides...during the day it's just ridiculous and a waste of time. << Is it a cultural thing X the way the Japanese do Disney?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> It gets tiresome. It's one thing if you're building somewhere that isn't in plain view of tens of thousands of people daily. But BLT was embarrassing! << I really would like to know why it took so long to acknowledge BLT. Don't they realize it only makes them look very foolish? >> Steve was smart to pull that blueprint down real fast too.>> >> Why? When he pulled it, the Orlando Sentinel and many other media sources were running with it. << Steve has some very good sources. He didn't want it to appear like that's where the leak came from. Just like Doobie doesn't want to rock the Disney Corporate boat. Lord knows it's enough pressure on him just having you post here on his site. >> I think we have potential. You can be my straight man, and we all know how hard it is to find one of them in Disney circles! << You'll have to work that into the act. <<I wonder if they plan on using RFID in Disney transportation. I would ask them, but I would get another letter from Disney Legal just like last time.>> >> Are you joking? I'm impressed, if true. I've never gotten one. I think Disney's lawyers realize it's much better for me to spill here than in the real world. << You might say it was a bit of a misunderstanding. I was asking a question, and they thought I was offering them a solution to a problem with transportation, which opens up all kinds of legal issues. Anyway we all became Big Buds again when I emailed them back, told them they were full of crap, and suggested they have somebody in their department that knows how to read, interpret my original email to them. I'm still waiting to hear back from my last batch of emails I sent to all the Head Honchos. I just don't think they love me like they did, when I was spending my money at WDW.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Orlando does offer more crime ... more Waffle Houses ... more crazy drivers ... more Walmarts ... of course, dear Bobbelee may be one of the guests that never leaves WDW property! << Don't let him Bully you Bobbelee. I never leave property either.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<<of course, dear Bobbelee may be one of the guests that never leaves WDW property!>> Of course I leave WDW property, how else would I get to the airport? First time we went, 1979, we rented a car, hit Sea World, Gatorland Zoo, and Stars Hall of Wax. They were also great places, but there was only the MK then. 2 years later we also went to Busch Garden, great time. The thing is, so many of you go to WDW more often than I go to the mall 10 minutes from my house, it's a regular thing for you. So I can understand why you think it's stale. But I go every 2-3 years, I'm on vacation, I don't want to run all over the state. 10-15 minute bus ride, no problem, but a 1-2 hour bus ride, nope.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Thank you Mr Pierce, Spirit better not bully me if he expects this sap to take him out to dinner.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Is it a cultural thing X the way the Japanese do Disney?*** Some of it is. Like the willingness to wait hours for a parade sitting on a mat on the concrete. But as for the barnstorming openings, DisneySea is much more chill. I think rather than cultural, in TDL's case it's simply a practical reality in a packed park where practically all the patrons show up at opening time and every one of them has been there a million times before, knows exactly what the most popular stuff is, and where to go to get a fastpass for it. All at once.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Is it a cultural thing X the way the Japanese do Disney?*** Some of it is. Like the willingness to wait hours for a parade sitting on a mat on the concrete. But as for the barnstorming openings, DisneySea is much more chill. I think rather than cultural, in TDL's case it's simply a practical reality in a packed park where practically all the patrons show up at opening time and every one of them has been there a million times before, knows exactly what the most popular stuff is, and where to go to get a fastpass for it. All at once.
Originally Posted By Mr X <a href="http://media.photobucket.com/image/Tokyo%20Disneyland%20lines/HydroGuyCO/Tokyo%20Disney/101_3250Small.jpg" target="_blank">http://media.photobucket.com/i...mall.jpg</a> A typical early morning fastpass line (this one for Monsters, Inc). In the case of Pooh, I've seen the fastpass line snake out of Fantasyland, through Tomorrowland, over the Tomorrowland bridge, past the castle and all the way across the hub, and over the Westernland bridge into Westernland. That's right, the fastpass line BEGAN just about halfway across the entire park! It's quite a sight.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<It's really sad that in a world with so many amazing technologies and discoveries to showcase, Epcot instead gives us cartoon fish and lame simulator rides. It's sad that Disney has lost it collective will to be a teaching company, and is only interested in making as big a profit as possible, the easiest way possible.>> It's the Walmart way. I'm not sure there's any turning back. I guess some of us will be able to tell our kids and grandkids that we experienced Disney when it wasn't based on a LCD business model.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I could spend my whole trip at Epcot. I end up there every night anyway.>> Usually, I do as well. But it would be nice to have an option. And 9 p.m. is dinnertime to me, so it still doesn't provide any night 'life' any more. <<I can't imagine gping to DAK, and not going on Kilimanjaro Safaris>> Usually, I'd agree. Not sure how, but just never made it on KS this time.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Taupe just has no bling, and the pearls compliment my skin tone, and I've never owned a Tiara.>> Well, if you buy me dinner then I'll get you a nice plastic one just like VBDAD prances around his Chicago suburbs in! >> Well, the thought of things like pre-ordering meals (possibly even with QSR) really scares me. << <<There are endless possibilities.>> That's what the Imagineer say ... sadly, too so do the MBAs! >> Hey, if Mickey ever did that to you, I suggest you contact the authorities. He isn't supposed to do such things ... unless he's at Vista Way with Buzz and Pluto! << <<That reminds me of a CSI episode I saw once.>> Aren't they all really the same? <<The Mouse plugs you everytime you walk through the turnstiles, but it's a happy plug.>> >> Why can't I come back with something pithy here? (long week!) << <<Don't you hate it when real life gets in the way of fantasy!>> (Almost) every day! >> I don't want to see them 'Reinvent the Disney Park-going Experience' ... I want them to take what they've done so well in the past and build on it in a 21st century way. In other words, take DLP and TDS as templates AND IMPROVE on them in parks domestically and internationally. << <<That's all it would take. It doesn't have to be done overnight. Just a slow methodical improvement of WDW.>> Yep. Of course if it were any slower, we might have another ice age before anything real happened. >> And ENOUGH MARKETING CAMPAIGNS ALREADY!!! << <<You know that will never happen. They are addicted to them. They think folks won't come without some cleaver promotional gimmick.>> Even with Michael Mendenhall long gone.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I really would like to know why it took so long to acknowledge BLT. Don't they realize it only makes them look very foolish?>> Nope. All they cared about was selling DVC at SS and DAK Lodge, which wasn't going as quickly as they expected. They knew folks would wait for BLT and it would hurt sales ... so figuring most people were too ignorant to figure it out, they just built it in plain sight! >> Steve was smart to pull that blueprint down real fast too.>> >> Why? When he pulled it, the Orlando Sentinel and many other media sources were running with it. << <<Steve has some very good sources. He didn't want it to appear like that's where the leak came from. Just like Doobie doesn't want to rock the Disney Corporate boat. Lord knows it's enough pressure on him just having you post here on his site.>> I doubt anyone from Burbank (or even Orlando) would come to him directly and mention me (or any other poster) in a 'we'd like to not read what so and so says' because if word like that ever got out ... Well, I'm just glad it isn't an issue here! >> I think we have potential. You can be my straight man, and we all know how hard it is to find one of them in Disney circles! << <<You'll have to work that into the act.>> That will be as easy as a punchline involving a fanboi and an Imagineer! <<I wonder if they plan on using RFID in Disney transportation. I would ask them, but I would get another letter from Disney Legal just like last time.>> >> Are you joking? I'm impressed, if true. I've never gotten one. I think Disney's lawyers realize it's much better for me to spill here than in the real world. << <<You might say it was a bit of a misunderstanding. I was asking a question, and they thought I was offering them a solution to a problem with transportation, which opens up all kinds of legal issues. Anyway we all became Big Buds again when I emailed them back, told them they were full of crap, and suggested they have somebody in their department that knows how to read, interpret my original email to them. I'm still waiting to hear back from my last batch of emails I sent to all the Head Honchos. I just don't think they love me like they did, when I was spending my money at WDW.>> Well, you can be sure once you are on the Mouse's radar, you're never off it. Just look at it like I do ... you're special!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Thank you Mr Pierce, Spirit better not bully me if he expects this sap to take him out to dinner.>> I would never bully anyone ... well, except where business is concerned and it's needed. And I never expect anyone to take me to dinner, but I sure like it when they do! And hanging with the Spirit is truly a magical experience no one ever forgets!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ***Is it a cultural thing X the way the Japanese do Disney?*** <<Some of it is. Like the willingness to wait hours for a parade sitting on a mat on the concrete. >> You get that in the States to some degree ... especially Fantasmic and pyro in Anaheim ... RoE often at EPCOT too. I don't get it. <<But as for the barnstorming openings, DisneySea is much more chill.>> Good thing I want to spend more time there anyway! <<I think rather than cultural, in TDL's case it's simply a practical reality in a packed park where practically all the patrons show up at opening time and every one of them has been there a million times before, knows exactly what the most popular stuff is, and where to go to get a fastpass for it. All at once.>> I guess it's just an Asian adventure.
