Disney's FastPass System is Abusing Guests

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    Originally Posted By MPierce

    >> It's all subjective, Mr. X. Some would say the same about getting hot under the collar over jonvn not posting anymore. <<

    I missed out on this in my absence. Anyone care to elaborate?
     
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    Originally Posted By trekkeruss

    Look in the community section back about three pages... around subject #113 or so.
     
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    Originally Posted By MPierce

    Thank You.
     
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    Originally Posted By barboy


    "I missed out on this in my absence. Anyone care to elaborate?"


    Well, what probably most of us thought was some "April fools" trick turned out to be no joke--- no more jonvn, at least on LP anyway.

    If you head over to "Community" section X started a thread devoted to jonvn.
     
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    Originally Posted By MPierce

    I got the drift of what happened. It will take me awhile to finish reading everything. I really didn't think anyone was ever banned from LP. I guess I thought wrong.
     
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    Originally Posted By dsnykid

    Magnet, I am not denying you feel strongly about fastpass, and I am not defending fastpass, what I am saying is you are OVERREACTING and taking this beyond extreme.. you have reached a point where you could have the most valid argument of all time and I for one would discredit it based solely upon your boorish behavior of the last few posts. I understand what you are saying, even though i disagree with it, and I have no desire to debate with you as you are blind to any view but your own. Like I said last night, take a break and clam down.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    Here's a novel idea...

    Why can't the subject just be debated?

    If you're not 'comfortable' with the level of passion involved in this particular thread -- go jump into another thread and participate in that one.
     
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    Originally Posted By dsnykid

    Debate is fine... fanaticism is a tad much
     
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    Originally Posted By magnet

    >>>We get it. You're enraged. In fact you're so bloody upset that you're even upset with anyone who actually *likes* fastpass.

    A bunch of selfish jerks, all of us.<<<

    No, you don't get it.

    I'm not enraged, and I don't really think that at all about you or anyone else over what you've said in this thread.

    That's just what you want to see coming through in my words. You just feel that such a picture of me is right and then act as if it's so based on a not so careful analysis of the situation. If anyone’s gone over the edge here, it’s you, Mr. X, with your reprisals and profanity. Your recent behavior over a banned poster and the NFFC meet in Japan puts you in no place of authority to lead any charge against me.

    It's the same behavior you show towards my case against FastPass. In both situations you decide what you want to believe about it and then deny my reasoning just because it doesn’t seem right to you. It’s not based on any factual evidence at all. You are quick to rush to judgment and condemnation while you are never guilty of any wrongdoing yourself.

    I’m not going to get mad and call you an offensive expletive. I won’t make stupid comparisons between you and South Park characters. I won’t setup strawman arguments against you the way you have done to me.

    In your case, I only need to hold a mirror up to show you your own reflection.
     
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    Originally Posted By leobloom

    "Jackass" isn't profane or obscene, magnet.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    I would say that depending on how it's used, it easily could be. Referring to a donkey, I don't really think that it is. But when you are using it in a derogatory way, especially when the person getting called names really hasn't done anything to deserve it, I would certainly say that it could be considered obscene.

    And for what it's worth, magnet, I pretty much agree with everything you've said in this thread. You bring up very good points, and defend them well. I really don't have anything else to contribute to the argument, but felt you should know that you're not alone feeling that way. I would have been more vocal, but I've learned with time that nothing turns into a name-calling World Events thread faster than a FP discussion, so my general rule of thumb it to stay away from them. Everybody is so set in their ways (on both sides) that nobody will be convinced to switch sides, and it really doesn't do more than upset everybody.
     
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    Originally Posted By magnet

    >>>Magnet, I am not denying you feel strongly about fastpass, and I am not defending fastpass, what I am saying is you are OVERREACTING and taking this beyond extreme.. you have reached a point where you could have the most valid argument of all time and I for one would discredit it based solely upon your boorish behavior of the last few posts. I understand what you are saying, even though i disagree with it, and I have no desire to debate with you as you are blind to any view but your own. Like I said last night, take a break and clam down.<<<

    Look, kid, I get it. I really do. You may not think so, but I do.

    Things are going to get a little hot in here. But this is the place to let them boil over, not out in the real world. You know, if it’s too intense for you – change the channel and get in another thread.

    My blood pressure is not 160/100 over FastPass, and I’m not being boorish or blind to any view but my own. In fact, I’ve respected these other views and have gone to great lengths to carefully show the errors in them. It’s my arguments that have not been respected, and when I lean a little bit on someone for being silly over something that I’m treating very seriously then all of a sudden I’m too harsh.

    I am showing little to no tolerance for confusion, and I probably will continue to do so. It may sound a little harsh, but I’m really not foaming at the mouth despite some efforts to paint me that way.

    Now, I’ve said I’m sorry to trekkeruss, and he didn’t seem too put off over it himself. So, why are you getting into it too?
     
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    Originally Posted By magnet

    LOL. leobloom.

    no response necessary.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    <Debate is fine... fanaticism is a tad much>

    Anyone posting on this website could be accused of fanaticism.

    You can't shut someone down by claiming that they're more of a Disney theme park nerd than you are.
     
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    Originally Posted By Goofyernmost

    I, for one, am not a nerd. I will bet my Mickey Antenna Topper and my Mickey shaped pen on that, which, BTW keeps getting stuck in my plastic pocket protector. Anyone else have that problem?
     
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    Originally Posted By magnet

    Well, Goofy:

    I used to have a tigger doll in my bedroom, but when I came home today I found an old FastPass clinging to it. So, in a fit of rage I ripped the doll to shreds and punched it down the garbage disposal in my sink.

    Then, I wiped the foam from my mouth and ran out the door and down the street screaming and waving my hands in the air.

    I just got back.

    (that was a joke. really!)
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    Why can't the subject just be debated?<<

    It can be and nobody ever said otherwise... the problem lies in the fact that magnet may be taking this a tad bit personally and going off the deep end with a few comments which Mr. X called him/her on.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    I think you're right on, magnet. I say we run it up the flagpole, start a grassroots campaign, and have FastPass eliminated from the stateside parks.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    ***NFFC meet in Japan***

    What exactly is your problem with what I wrote about the NFFC incidents?
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    ***I say we run it up the flagpole, start a grassroots campaign, and have FastPass eliminated from the stateside parks.***

    Good luck with that Jim.

    I think you'll find that the vast majority of park patrons either like it or don't care one way or the other.
     

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