Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Can't believe there's talk of a re-do of The Imagination pavilion.>> WDI has been wanting to retool Imagination for years. Ditto for the brain trust at Pixar. Gee... kinda makes sense that the replacement rumor circulating around involves Inside Out. As much as I loved the original w/Dreamfinder & Figment, I'd rather see an IO attraction done properly as overseen by Pete and Ronnie, than to let Figment languish in that horrible excuse for an attraction. Bring it on, WDI & Pixar. Momma needs an excuse to burn her frequent flyer miles! 8^D
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<As much as I loved the original w/Dreamfinder & Figment, I'd rather see an IO attraction done properly as overseen by Pete and Ronnie, than to let Figment languish in that horrible excuse for an attraction.>> I agree. And as much as I have loved Illuminations over the years, it is also past due for a replacement. Things are looking up for the long neglected WDW parks.
Originally Posted By magic0214 The Epcot additions interest me very much, even though I think "Illuminations" is the best nighttime entertainment at Disney World. My thoughts on these current DHS rumors are mixed, as the thought of tons of new stuff is thrilling, but if it's JUST Star Wars and Pixar, I'll be very depressed. I understand that the studio idea doesn't make sense, that's fine, but if you want to still be movie/franchise based, don't just choose two brands, pick a multitude of concepts, films and ideas. While I would love something themed to Hercules or Pocahontas (why doesn't DAK have a North America area with a Pocahontas attraction? It's stupid they don't), a Big Hero 6 dark ride and a trackless ride for Wreck-It Ralph would change it up. Or, go older films for new attractions that have never been brought to the parks, like Hunchback or Tarzan.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>And as much as I have loved Illuminations over the years, it is also past due for a replacement.<< I agree. It was one of the best shows I'd ever seen when it premiered for the Millennium Celebration, bit it has since grown quite long in the tooth. The LED globe technology and fountains look very primitive by today's standards, and the whole concept behind the show is lost on most guests. That said, the new lasers they got this winter have done a lot to breathe life into the old show Personally, I think Wishes should get replaced before Illuminations. I know people go crazy for it, but I've never been impressed by that turd of a show >>(why doesn't DAK have a North America area with a Pocahontas attraction? It's stupid they don't)<< Avatar took the space for that away. I'd be surprised if we ever saw a North American area at DAK, but there are tons of great Disney characters they could incorporate into it (Pocahontas, Bambi, Brother Bear...)
Originally Posted By SallyOmalley +++OAN, I wonder what the "Universal Is Beating Disney" brigade thinks of all these rumors.+++ For someone who takes issue with comparing the two compaies because you find it silly, you sure do talk about it a lot! Hip hypocrite Yes, I think so. So I guess you really do like to argue about it after all. Yes, you are the hip hypocrite.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt It was an honest question. There was so much noise a few years ago that Disney was letting WDW languish while Universal was setting the new standard for themed entertainment. With all the new rumors about Disney reinvesting heavily in WDW swirling around it's only natural to wonder what the rest of the theme park community makes of them.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>And as much as I have loved Illuminations over the years, it is also past due for a replacement<<< I've seen it the first time in 2008 and although it was okay, I wasn't so impressed by it. That's why we skipped it entirely this year. I wouldn't mind a replacement.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>It was an honest question. There was so much noise a few years ago that Disney was letting WDW languish while Universal was setting the new standard for themed entertainment. With all the new rumors about Disney reinvesting heavily in WDW swirling around it's only natural to wonder what the rest of the theme park community makes of them. <<< As I've said before somewhere here on this board, we weren't very impressed by Universal. WWOHP is fantastic, in both parks, but rest is nothing special. Even Escape from Gringotts didn't live up to the expactations. Only Forbidden Jourey was very impressive. Transformers was also a disappointment. Universal has so many screen based rides and Transformers and Spider-Man are basically the same. If Disney would do two similar rides, some fans would go berserk. Disney has done some weak attractions in recent years and with WWOHP one could get the impression that Disney is falling behind, but overall the Universal Resort in Orlando is still far behind any Disney resort. If this 3 billion makeover is indeed coming, and not just some wishful thinking, than I'm pretty sure Disney will deliver. As a big Star Wars fan, I hope it's true and I'm very curious what Disney is going to do with that IP. Since it is Star Wars, it has to be great. I just wish that Indiana Jones would also be part of that makeover, but I highly doubt it and many so called insiders on other boards already denied that.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <Universal has so many screen based rides and Transformers and Spider-Man are basically the same. If Disney would do two similar rides, some fans would go berserk.> And yet - when the argument for not building an 'Indiana Jones' attraction because it's the exact same ride system and track layout as 'Countdown to Extinction / Dinosaur' many here say it makes no difference. *shrug*
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad I think screens and ride tracks are completely different issues. The screen rides become redundant and it becomes hard to separate one from the other. We had a great time at Uni but after we had ridden most everything I commented to my daughter that there were to many screen based rides. Each ride was good but but for some reason as a group they became tiresome. With tracks I think it is more an issue what the tracks travel thru. Same tracks could still have unique rides.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Agreed. Dinosaur seems to be a very different attraction from Indy. Although I have not had a chance to ride RSR, video ride-through's show it to be very different from Test Track.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think that RSR is more different from TT than Dinosaur/Indy. TT is completely about the ride system, while RSR is more about the characters and scenery. Indy and Dinosaur both have impressive sets, but the real unique component is the ride vehicle; because they're the exact same layout there are just too many similarities to overlook, from ride length to intensity, to pacing. That said, there are many Disney parks that feature multiple rollercoasters (often with very similar intensity levels) and nobody seems to mind. There really isn't that big of a difference between DL's Matterhorn and Big Thunder, MK's Big Thunder and Seven Dwarfs Mine Train, or DLP's Space Mountain and Indiana Jones, yet all of those are very popular attractions. If they're done well and are exciting, I really don't think people will care if there are a lot of similarities
Originally Posted By Dis-Philip <<This information is popping up at multiple sites. That does not make it true, but it is at least beginning to seem plausible. Especially when the $3 billion is not just for the Studios, but includes a replacement for Illuminations and the Imagination attraction at Epcot. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://thisisinfamous.com/3-bi...clusive/>>">http://thisisinfamous.com/3-bi...>></a> Everything posted in that article is a big fat lie as well. And Slashfilm perpetuated that site's lies.
Originally Posted By Dis-Philip <<WDI has been wanting to retool Imagination for years. Ditto for the brain trust at Pixar. Gee... kinda makes sense that the replacement rumor circulating around involves Inside Out. As much as I loved the original w/Dreamfinder & Figment, I'd rather see an IO attraction done properly as overseen by Pete and Ronnie, than to let Figment languish in that horrible excuse for an attraction.>> The Imagination pavilion is not going to be re-themed to Inside Out. That's just another big fat lie created by Jim Hill. The next Imagination ride, from what I've heard at least, will still star Figment and will bring Dreamfinder back.
Originally Posted By u k fan I hope Muppet Vision gets a stay of execution. I know it's old and has stayed well past the usual shelf life of such an attraction, but it was the last thing Jim Henson worked on so is culturally significant. Plus Miss Piggy will not be happy!!!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I agree that MuppetVision is pretty great, and probably the best 3D film that Disney has done. That said, it's been there for nearly 25 years and is past its prime I don't know if it's related or not, but Mama Melrose (restaurant right by the Muppets theater) stops having available reservations after October 25. It could be a sign that they're closing that whole area down for work. Then again, the Osbourne Lights have been confirmed for 2015, so I'm not sure they would want heavy construction beginning right as that area starts drawing crowds for the season
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>I hope Muppet Vision gets a stay of execution. I know it's old and has stayed well past the usual shelf life of such an attraction, but it was the last thing Jim Henson worked on so is culturally significant. Plus Miss Piggy will not be happy!!!<<< I haven't seen you here for quite some time. I also hope that Muppet Vision stays. It was a lot of fun. And since "It's a tribute to all nations, but mostly America" it just has to stay. I just love it.
Originally Posted By magic0214 I'm wondering if they would save room for a new Muppets attractions, especially with the new TV show (if it does well) and the 2 recent films.
