DLP Roundtable Discussion with Philippe Gas

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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    The only other time I've felt so enclosed in a Disney park was half way up a mushroom in the Honey I Shrunk... Playground at DHS. It's dark, dingy, often filled with graffiti, not long enough and about as whimsical as hernia.

    I've tried to pick out it's good points for you!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    If I am honest, I don't think I am doing very well. I physically am simply bruised and sore, and it is too painful to make my 177 mile (344km) commute to my client today. My blood pressure is very high as well and that means my eyes hurt. They are worried I may have had a heart attack, and although ruled out, I am back to the hospital to see the cardiologist (heart specialist) tomorrow.

    But mentally it is not good. I have a short temper, feel very sensitive and a little depressed. I can't think clearly, although I should be working.

    And financially, it is no secret I have not enjoyed what I have been doing recently and am spending a long time away from my wife, children, extended family and friends. However, we had a rough patch earlier this year, and I had to take time off to care for family members when they had surgery (every day off, there is no pay), so I have been working very hard to make it up.

    We paid off both cars this year and I had hoped I could slow down or make a slight career change next year. But now with needing to replace Sarah's car, it is really another financial strain. In the meantime, my dad is closing his business for good just before Christmas. I have been supporting 9 people this year financially.

    so now I am depressed, angry, confused, and know not what to do. I also am tired of being on the road, and wonder if that was a part of the accident.

    We are looking at replacement cars, but all the afordable ones are a step down. and even though Sarah says she is happy to, she keeps finding faults in the afordable ones.

    And it is all my fault...I don't know how life ended up here. And I am unsure how to make the change I so desperately need. Our financial commitments are such that is makes it very tough without getting into trouble.
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    As for Peter Pan - we skip it unless it is EMH. But on a school holiday day or weekend, that thing can get 90 minute waits in a cattle pen. and thanks to FP, it does not keep moving.
     
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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    (((Dave)))
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    I'm so sorry for you and I hope things are getting better for you and your family.
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    Thanks guys. It is right now, I think I may understand Mr x's tirade that got him booted off this site. It just takes one red flag, and you want to go rampant. Lol god knows I have been swearing much more than usual. and i really want to swear at the Disney company. You see, in times of trouble, they would be like a beacon of hope. Silly, I know. But now, they are just as bad (if not worse) than the other entertainment companies.
     
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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    I think they're only worse by virtue of the fact that they used to be better if that makes sense!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    Total sense, they have fallen much further, while others have stepped up. And as a lifelong obsessive, it hurts. sad, I know, but true. It makes me really angry. It makes me feel like when my brother turned to drugs and we still loved him, but the anger, frustration and everything else led to a feeling of loss, and a hardness of no return.

    Thankfully he has come out the other side and is working to become who is capable of being. I wish for Disney to do likewise. But while the Weatherman and his horrid henchman Jay are around, I feel we may be to the point of no return.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    I'm a Disneyfan for about ten years now. It all started with a visit to DLRP.

    So I don't know a lot about how the parks have been before, but from guys like you I know that it has been a lot better.

    However, I think DLRP was not in the best condition between 2006 and 2008. In 2010 I really was surprised how well maintained many effects were and the parks in general were very clean as well. During that time Disney also announced some movies I was looking forward to and that they want to improve DCA. I had the impression that Mr. Iger was the right CEO for Disney and after he purchased Pixar, I was confident in Disney's future.

    Unfortunately I didn't see the big picture with all the franchises and toonification of the parks. While I think the movies, like POTC, Toy Story, Tron, Tangled or The Sorcerer's Apprentice, were great in recent years, the parks are definitely on a downturn. There is no new attraction from WDI that amazed people. Universal caught up over the years. I hope SHDL amazes the fans again.

    In my opinion Disney is too big today to care about the fans and consumers.

    I didn't lose my faith in Disney and I truly hope that in a few years things will be better again, especially at DLRP.
     
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    Originally Posted By Bolna

    Dave - I just want to say how sorry I am to hear about your situation!! I hope that 2012 will bring around many more positive things than what this year had to offer.

    dagobert, thanks for posting this! I am so excited that the stupid stage on central plaza is going away!!! I need to check out that website. I never really looked at German Disney websites...
     
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    Originally Posted By irishfan

    Just going back to the need for a new Luxury hotel at the resort, isn't there an expansion pad available for the Disneyland hotel?
     
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    Originally Posted By davewasbaloo

    Thanks bona.

    Irishfan, I believe there are two.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    You're welcome, Bolna!

    It's a nice forum and I've posted there already, but I didn't like it that much than the Englisch boards. I don't know why, but for me it's weired to post in German and I like the international diversity of the English boards.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    I think I read somewhere that there are already plans to expand the DLH.

    In my opinion they should not expand the DLH and instead Disney should build a new one. There is enough space at Lake Disney. That would be a possibility to incorporate an expanded Disney Village into the hotel, like Disney has done in Anaheim.
     
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    Originally Posted By Bolna

    <<It's a nice forum and I've posted there already, but I didn't like it that much than the Englisch boards. I don't know why, but for me it's weired to post in German and I like the international diversity of the English boards.>>

    I understand very well! Somehow posting in German is really strange for me as well. :)
     
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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    <<<In my opinion they should not expand the DLH and instead Disney should build a new one. There is enough space at Lake Disney. That would be a possibility to incorporate an expanded Disney Village into the hotel, like Disney has done in Anaheim.>>>

    But Mr Gas did say that he thinks it should be at the entrance to a park so WDSP would seem like the only option unless they extend Disney Village down to the entrance of WDSP as well!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    Here's an old blueprint from 2009 about an proposed expansion:
    <a href="http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/11/04/forget-shanghai-paris-lets-slip-major-projects/" target="_blank">http://www.dlrptoday.com/2009/...rojects/</a>

    I can't see where at the entrance of WDSP is enough space to build a new hotel.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    Here's another blueprint, but you have to scroll down a bit:

    <a href="http://www.disneygazette.fr/forum/gazette-du-jour-f79/les-projets-2011-2020-t8648.html" target="_blank">http://www.disneygazette.fr/fo...648.html</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    I would imagine it would go somewhere near the area marked Disney Village Expansion under World Of Disney Store on the DLRP Today blueprint and then have a private walkway to the WDSP entrance. I do think there are better locations, but it has been said that the feeling is that a premium hotel should be at the entrance to a park. I guess it's either that or we have to wait for the 3rd gate (which would make more sense to be honest geographically)!

    Without the equal perk in proximity that the DL Hotel has the new Deluxe would need to be highly themed or everyone will still just want the DL Hotel!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    In my opinion there is not enough space. I've just looked on Google earth and if I'm not mistaken, that space is needed for a second entrance to the railway station.

    I would say the only option is to build a new hotel next to DV and Lake Disney. I would preferre a Hollywood themed hotel like in Hong Kong. It would be a perfect match to the American themed Disney hotels. And Disney should build it on their own with no partner.
     

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