Originally Posted By Dabob2 "I'm still making yours, dabob----you should expect some pain come 2am Eastern time. LOL!!!! This is fun" Friends don't let friends post drunk.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I took it as a joke. That's why I played along about my deceased email accounts. Geez... for once it wasn't me. I should go buy a lottery ticket!
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf <<I've probably said this before and lost track, so forgive me, but to me the most fascinating part of the Romney/Mormon moment is the notion that the ideal Mormon male is just not that well liked outside of Mormonism. In the faith, Romney truly is what Mormon males aspire to be. There's a stiffness and a formality to Mormon leaders. Attend a Mormon worship service and you'll see an adherence to rules (debate time and whose turn it is, anyone?) and a formality that's absolutely revered in the faith. Mormons see this as emulating the church of Christ. If you're a Mormon woman and your husband is on the stand and you see him up there basically being a Mitt Romney, you are delighted and in love. This is what Mormon women want in their priesthood holding men. But outside the faith, it's seen as cold and impersonal...just like Romney. Phony, even. I think it's why Romney struggles with women (his awful policies aside) - he's relating to them the way he knows how and his whole life he's been admired for it and found attractive for it. But outside the faith, he's seen as condescending to women. As we've seen from some of the testy responses here from Romney's Mormon supporters, this is just not understood by the faithful. Personally, I think the church would do well to learn from it.>> Brilliant post, ecdc. Very insightful and right on the money. I posted it here again because it's worth re-reading.
Originally Posted By ADMIN <font color="#FF0000">Message removed by an administrator. <a href="MsgBoard-Rules.asp" target="_blank">Click here</a> for the LaughingPlace.com Community Standards.</font>
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf barboy, your posts are some of the funniest I have read in a long time. Thanks! Mormon baptisms for the dead are like voodoo dolls, not really anything to be afraid of. SPP, chill.
Originally Posted By utahjosh < If you're a Mormon woman and your husband is on the stand and you see him up there basically being a Mitt Romney, you are delighted and in love. This is what Mormon women want in their priesthood holding men.> My wife would much rather have me sitting with her in the congregation.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf <<My wife would much rather have me sitting with her in the congregation.>> Then you married a good, smart woman. Congrats.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>My wife would much rather have me sitting with her in the congregation.<< Maybe so. Mitt Romney is the kind of guy Mormon women find attractive. That's all. My only point is, perhaps unspoken in my previous post, that Mormons see themselves as normal and likable, and so many of my Mormon friends seem genuinely baffled that people just don't like Mitt Romney. His likability ratings don't touch Obama's. Mormons have the very epitome of what it means to be one of them on the national stage...and people just don't like him that much. For years, Mormons said, "If people only knew us, they'd like us." Well.... Whether you agree or not, Josh, I think the faith will be challenged by that and wrestling with it for a while.
Originally Posted By ecdc Alright, I've wasted enough time on LP once again spouting off on Mormonism Best crawl back into my cave and get some work done!
Originally Posted By ADMIN <font color="#FF0000">Message removed by an administrator. <a href="MsgBoard-Rules.asp" target="_blank">Click here</a> for the LaughingPlace.com Community Standards.</font>
Originally Posted By ADMIN <font color="#FF0000">Message removed by an administrator. <a href="MsgBoard-Rules.asp" target="_blank">Click here</a> for the LaughingPlace.com Community Standards.</font>
Originally Posted By TomSawyer "Yes, hating a group for spending their personal time to offer a gift is really great. It is such a despicable act." After all, Torquemada was only trying to save the Jew's souls.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Bishop might mean the same thing as pastor, but it is misleading. A Rabbi is the kind of the same thing as a pastor, but I've never heard a Jewish leader call himself that. An Anglican priest is kind of the same thing as a pastor, but every Anglican or Episcopalian I've ever met always referred to himself or herself as a priest. I've never heard a mullah refer to himself as a pastor. Romney used a word specifically chosen to de-emphasize the religion that his family has been a proud part of since the first years of it. His own great-great-grandfather is called the Paul of the LDS. The Romneys and Pratts have been a major part of the LDS since it's founding. Why hide it?
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf <<Bite me. Being "afraid" has nothing to do with it.>> Always the ray of sunshine...if it's not fear, what is it? You will never know when someone gets baptised using your name so what do you care? And I'm not trying to defend the Mormons here, but all they do is take names, NAMES, nothing more, and baptise someone using someone else's NAME. They don't exhume bodies, they don't dunk strangers under water at their leisure, they don't take your personal articles and try to channel you back to earth after you're gone. While I think performing these rituals is a complete waste of time I really don't see how it is such an outrage. As barboy humorously pointed out, the outraged here seem irrationally fearful and superstitious about this.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Mormons have the very epitome of what it means to be one of them on the national stage...and people just don't like him that much.<< I dunno. I have had several Mormon friends and I don't know any that are at all like Romney. >>my Mormon friends seem genuinely baffled that people just don't like Mitt << I think I can explain it to them. I have had CEOs exactly like Romney. Claiming to have an open-door policy when speaking to a larger gathering, but really, you'd better make an appt. The nice-nice is for an audience, but in reality, there is a coldness behind it, even a disinterest. And for this reason, it's always just as awkward when they try to be one of the regular guys with the workforce. Romney = awkward. I've shared it before, but one of our CEOs would have these quarterly managers meetings. And he'd always break the ice by joking about how this VP always expected a Mulligan, or how that VP couldn't putt to save his life, that kind of thing. All meant to be folksy, but of course it only underscored the wide chasm between their life and the rest of us. They were in the club, the rest of us were not. I didn't begrudge them their income, but I sure didn't appreciate it awkwardly shoved in our face, as we were always looking at some essential pay cut and staff reductions. It was hopelessly out of tune, but the CEO never, ever got how tone deaf it was. Some of us had to lay off staff members just days ahead of these meetings, and regardless, here would come the chuckling golf jokes. This is what I see in Romney. This is what makes him so damn unlikable. If he could somehow be in on the joke, play up the whole Thurston Howell III thing, if you thought he had a single molecule in his body where he either stood for something or acknowledged that he stood for nothing, he'd instantly be more likable. But he doesn't, and he isn't.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan "I like being able to fire people." Who says such a thing? Especially when so many people have lost jobs/careers over the past few years. Someone unlikable, that's who. Anyone who sees his nasty commentary in the now famous 47% video and can still support Romney needs to seriously examine their values and ethics. Especially if they consider themselves Christian. Short of that, they should at least ask themselves how they would have reacted if the video showed Obama saying the same thing. But that sort of honest self-reflection is a rare thing, especially in politics. People pick a team and stick with it no matter what. It's too bad.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>the outraged here seem irrationally fearful and superstitious about this<< No, it's because it is something unwanted and quite disrespectful of others' beliefs. The Mormons know this and say "Fiddle dee dee, we'll do it anyway! We know best!" Except for Jewish people, perhaps, because they've promised not to, but for everyone else, the Mormon "gift" (and yes, it requires quotes around it) is given regardless of what the person believed in while living. Just a reminder: I will mercilessly haunt anyone foolish enough to force this "gift" on my dead carcass. If you believe in this "gift" then you should also believe in "ghosts" and I will be a most horrifying one. Not a cute chain rattling kind. Oh, no. I will be the kind that has you seeing maggots wriggling in a crawling steak and you then tearing off your own face kind. You have been warned! This warning is my "gift."
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Coming attractions for unwanted gift-givers. This will be what I call a "Tuesday." Comprende? <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsMCOmn11zs&playnext=1&list=PL32CC09ED872A2D4C&feature=results_video" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ts_video</a>
Originally Posted By TomSawyer There is this: <a href="http://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/" target="_blank">http://alldeadmormonsarenowgay.com/</a> Most Mormons have been turned gay in the afterlife. Bet you didn't know that Joseph Smith not only had several wives, but now he has several husbands as well.
Originally Posted By utahjosh Kar2oonMan, if that were true - wouldn't we be haunted by all those who didn't want the GIFT? Or will you be the only one angry and powerful enough when we DO offer you the baptism?
