Originally Posted By danyoung >You wouldn't mind being told every day that the pool was closed (they don't announce why, naturally) when you wanted to use it?< OK, so here's the natural skeptic's question (not that I'm disbelieving you on this, Spirit) - if they closed the pool 4 days out of 5, but the didn't announce why, how did you come to the conclusion that all 4 days was because of the pooh problem?
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 >>I believe a lot of it has to do with the "This vacation is for the kids, so they can do whatever they want", mentality. They don't care about you or me or anyone else, as long as the kids don't whine, they'll let them do whatever they want - even at the expense of our comfort.<< I so agree with this. >>So, you think it's perfectly OK for kids (and hell, I'm sure adults have done it too) to take a crap in a swimming pool? Is this right? It wouldn't bother you? You'd jump right in? You wouldn't mind being told every day that the pool was closed (they don't announce why, naturally) when you wanted to use it?<< I would be angry. As DVC stated a swim diaper does wonders. My son wore one all the time. Some parents just don't care who and what they affect. They feel just as long as they don't have to deal with their kids, than oh well. Well, Oh well this because one thing such as a person using the pool as their personal facility, can make for a bad vacation for the rest of us. Too bad those parents and whoever does this sort of stuff can't be marked with a big red strip that lasts the rest of their vacation. This way they would be band from the pool area so the rest of us respectful people could enjoy our vacation.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I've been to WDW about 15 times and have used the resort pool twice. I figure why waste my time swimming when we have swimming pools at home? At any rate, I think it is totally disgusting. And I don't think swim diapers help the problem. A swim diaper may keep the pieces from floating around, but does it keep the bacterial from getting in the water? I doubt it. If I were Disney I would ban children in diapers from the pool. Period. When I was growing up (back in the olden days), no on ever THOUGHT of putting a diapered child in a swimming pool!! What the heck has the world come to anyway? If Disney figures guests would throw a hissy fit if they can't put their diapered rug-rat in the water, they should at least create shallow wading pools for the young'uns and keep the real pools clean.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<OK, so here's the natural skeptic's question (not that I'm disbelieving you on this, Spirit)>> That's OK, Danny. We all know you are getting to the point where diapers are going to be needed ... so I'll excuse your questioning. <<- if they closed the pool 4 days out of 5, but the didn't announce why, how did you come to the conclusion that all 4 days was because of the pooh problem?>> Because one time I was in the pool when said substance was found. Another time I watched as it was fished out and placed in a bio-hazzard bag. Another time I watched as a poor, blond lifeguard had to go in and dive for crap (God, I couldn't make this **** up if I wanted to!). And the last time I heard the lifeguards talking about it. I likely have averaged 40 nights a year in WDW resorts over the past 20 years. I have witnessed this crap going on countless times. And, yeah, I have a big problem with it because Disney needs to adapt and its doing a (blanky) job of it. If guests are going to do this, they need to get tough. This isn't just disgusting, which should be enough. It is a potential health issue for young children, the elderly and those with weakened immune systems. Why do I sense it taking a major problem or lawsuit before Disney wakes up and smells the poo?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I've been to WDW about 15 times and have used the resort pool twice. I figure why waste my time swimming when we have swimming pools at home?>> I have a pool as well. I don't have the great themed pools that WDW has. I like to swim, soak and relax on vacation. There's a reason Disney has them. <<At any rate, I think it is totally disgusting. And I don't think swim diapers help the problem. A swim diaper may keep the pieces from floating around, but does it keep the bacterial from getting in the water? I doubt it. If I were Disney I would ban children in diapers from the pool. Period.>> I agree. There should be a BAN. TOTAL ban. Period. If a child isn't toilet-trained, they don't swim. If that's going to ruin someone's trip, then I'd suggest they rent a house with a private pool and let the brats use it as a toilet ... or, here's a novel idea, don't come to WDW until the kids are older. <<When I was growing up (back in the olden days), no on ever THOUGHT of putting a diapered child in a swimming pool!! What the heck has the world come to anyway?>> Trippy, I'm trying to figure out how in the last 15 years we got so dumb and so selfish. I haven't got a clue ... <<If Disney figures guests would throw a hissy fit if they can't put their diapered rug-rat in the water, they should at least create shallow wading pools for the young'uns and keep the real pools clean.>> Rest assured if I would have complained another note would wind up in my file. And the mid-level manager I'd speak to would likely either think I'm crazy or get angry that I expect he/she to do anything about it or try bribing me to go away with a free dinner.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN <<Money doesn't buy class.>> It certainly is not used anymore to buy yourself a seat in First or Business Class.
Originally Posted By kennect How many times did this happen Spirit? You said you were in the pool one time and then mention another time...I am confused...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^It happened FOUR times in FIVE days that I was at POP. The only day I didn't go to the pool, it rained most of the day.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Maybe they should change the name of the hotel to POOP Century resort!!! LOL!!!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^I was waiting for someone to use that line. Surprised it took so long.
Originally Posted By kennect Spirit, Your initial post lead me to me to believe this was a single incident that closed the pool for the five days...If in fact this problem is as severe as you say there is a major problem that needs to be addressed...Doesn't the resort have a kiddie pool, as if that would make any difference to adults with children...We had a rather serious outbreak here of Ecoli a couple of years ago at a Six Flags water park due to this same problem...I have no clue as to what the answer is short of keeping very small kids out of the standard pools...Is that fair? Not sure but if what you say is true it seems to be making a major impact on the overall guest experience and does need to be dealt with in a posistive manner....hopefully they will...How is the infant/toddler thing handled at the water parks?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^I'm sure POP has a kiddie pool. Every WDW does, I believe. But that doesn't stop parents from letting toddlers and babies go in pools and hot tubs. Disney's take on it is they'd rather inconvenience a large chunk of guests than have one crazy mommy and daddy yell about how their trip was ruined because their child was ordered out of the pool ... at least it is until someone sues them or a major health-related problem comes about because of this.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Even if there is a kiddy pool, it is very likely that it runs on the same water system as the main pool, which means that the germs can spread between the two. I was once at a water park where this happened, and they had someone fish it out with one of those net things, and then they poured some extra strong chemicals into the pool. They made everybody get out for about 30 minutes so they could do all that, but it really wasn't that huge of an inconvenience. It just seemed a little gross to get back in the water. I suspect that it could be done even quicker in WDW, since it was actually three fairly large pools that were terraced and connected by slides, so less water could probably be treated faster.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Basically it is all the fault of us Baby Boomers. We took what previously had been a natural human function, having children, and elevated it to a special status. All of a sudden we had "Baby on Board" signs in the back of our cars which basically meant "Get the heck out of my way". We bought Hummer-sized strollers and took them into crowded places which basically meant "Get the heck out of my way". We took our squealing brats into adult restaurants which basically meant "Get the heck out of my way". We somehow felt that by the fact that we had managed to have sex and procreate that we should be afforded some special status and that everyone else should "Get the heck out of my way". I am one of those Baby Boomers. I apologize to all that follow our generation. We have created a culture centered around self-centered brats and it shows. Someday we will get back to where society is structured for adults and children fit in where they can. Then the great majority of us will enjoy life a whole lot more and the children will be much better behaved. People may now shoot arrows at me.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Well, now that I know I can blame Trippy for the downfall of people with class, I can go to bed, and not have to worry about anything!
