Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Disney does NOT enforce any sort of unwritten rule. Guests can pretty much get away with anything, including criminal behavior, so long as they paid their admission.
Originally Posted By ghosthost2001 Disney does have park rules. Are they posted no. Should they be? YES. Our cast list of rules for the park are a page and a half. I have a copy of them somewhere. Most of it is park policy on guest dress code for a family theme park, whereas shirts and shoes must be worn at all times. One thing I found interesting is the shoes most kids wear that have the wheels, they are not allowed in the park. But how would anyone know that if these rules are not posted? They expect all of us castmembers to just enforce them. But then we get yelled at because the guest didnt know. I really think the parks need to communicate our policies better.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Going back to the first post.. WDW HAS RULES! They just don't enforce them. There IS a dress code, there IS a conduct code, etc etc etc... There just happen to be CMs who do not care to enforce them rules the way TDR CMs do on a very professional and insisting way. Reason why guest behavior is so out of control. Do you think we would have women wearing skimpy bathing suit tops in the park, or men wearing only wife beater undershirts, or people bringing in their own food if I was working those turstyles in a security costume???
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy Regarding Guest Conduct Rules -- I went to Guest Relations today and asked for a copy. The CM looked perplexed and had to go talk to his manager. But the upshot is that they didn't have one for me. They just said that "there are rules, and there are good reasons for them." Well, no doubt. But no copy for me to be able to forward to our Youth Group before their outing to the park. My question is -- If CMs stop people for not wearing shoes in the park and insist that they wear them, shouldn't that rule at least be written and posted somewhere? Where, I don't care. But somewhere. Otherwise it's just a CMs say-so. I will continue to search for a list. Maybe someone who's been in Guest Relations much longer can remember when the last time they must have published such a list. ------------------ Wheeled shoes -- (where the wheels are "invisible") These ought to be ruled out, the same way they don't like skate boards and such at malls. Who buys these things for their kids, and then lets them wear them to theme parks and malls where there are other people in close spaces? Hey! You kids! Git offen' my lawn! (shakes cane at the kids....)
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Wheeled shoes -- (where the wheels are "invisible") These ought to be ruled out, the same way they don't like skate boards and such at malls. Who buys these things for their kids, and then lets them wear them to theme parks and malls where there are other people in close spaces? Hey! You kids! Git offen' my lawn! (shakes cane at the kids....) < banned in our schools
Originally Posted By KachinaBear I visited a small local amusement park last weekend (Joyland Park, in Wichita KS) and noticed signs stating dress code and park rules in various locations around the park. Some of the rules were kind of odd to me, such as "hats must be worn appropriately" and "no heavy outerwear unless weather dictates" . I noticed they did not seem very strict on enforcing the rules, at least the "no bandanas" rule. Also, they did the metal detector wand thing on us when we entered the park, even made us set our 11 month old down so they could check her, too. Anyways, my point being, I guess it's not that unusual for parks to have rules posted.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I guess it's not that unusual for parks to have rules posted. << And I have no doubt Disney has them posted somewhere. Lawyers are pretty good about being sure all the T's are crossed and I's dotted. You can't go about enforcing a rule unless it's public somewhere. You can't just expect CM's to notify people one-on-one from something that "they've heard."
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Is that why no one enforces the Smoking Policy? Because guests only hear of it on some spiels, and don't care to read it on their guidemaps?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN As a matter of fact.. weren't rules printed on the guidemaps and on signs on the Ticket windows around property or is that now history as well, just like the Disney Legacies?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Last I saw, there used to be rules (very basic regarding shirts, shoes, smoking and maybe added profanity or unsafe behavior ... although that may be DL) in the guidemaps. But since they have cheapened them to the point they don't even list every attraction, dining location or shop and have descriptions for attractions like "Space Mountain: Roller coaster in the dark" ... they may not have the room for them anymore. I'm too tired to go find a recent map now.
Originally Posted By kpwdwfan I just checked a MK park map from August '06 and found the following statement: "COURTESY, We work hard to offer a comfortable, safe and enjoyable experience for all of our guests. Please assist us by showing common courtesy to fellow park guests. Please be respectful of others. Do not use profanity or engage in unsafe, illegal or offensive behavior. Proper attire, including shoes and shirts, must be worn at all times". Wow, they do have written rules, I'd never seen this notice before. This must mean that guests shouldn't be allowed to let their childern pee in bushes or have 20 to 30 people cut in line to join up with one person, LOL. It also has the "Wild about Safety" campaign with Pumba and a quick little blurb about smoking in designated areas only. In my opinion it seems that Disney management tries to avoid conflict at all costs unless someone realy puts up a fuss about guests inappropriate actions. It appears that they hope that the problem will clear itself up without any intervention if at all possible. I'm sure that this isn't always the case but I've seen cast members overlook quite a bit in my years at the parks.
Originally Posted By jkayjs Well here I am visiting my daughter. I went to the parks today and sure enough there are printed "rules" in the guide books. When you first open the map it is on the top with one side pointig out 4 tips for a safer day with Pumba&Timon. They are worded much like the banter in "The Circle of Life". Things like "No Stampeding". The second one is "Follow The Rules Of The Jungle (comply with written, verbal and audio instructions)". The other two are about staying seated with arms and legs inside the rides. The second part next to it is called "Special Considerations". It is small print and talks about being considerate to fellow park goers with some general comments about appropriate dress, etc. I'm too tired to write it all out but there are some rules. As for them being displayed anywhere else I couldn't say except of course for the warnings at each attraction. I'll try to look tomorrow. BTW the parks are pretty dead right now. Even with some big pin trading thing going on it didn't seem busy today. Well good night more later.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey I think its a shame that there have to be any posted rules at all. It used to be that common sense and common courtesy told you not to walk around with your shirt off or barefoot in a public place, or that you shouldn't wear shirts covered in profanity. It used to be common sense that said you should be courteous to everyone. It was expected that you acted like a tasteful human being - there didn't have to be rules to tell you to act with decorum and class.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey I will never forget a woman who walked into the Disney Store one day - her entire outfil was covered in the words "F--- YOU!". I wouldn't have the guts to walk around in public like that, much less the lack of class to do so.
Originally Posted By Friar Tuck and Roll While not at Disney, but at Universal's Rock the Universe event this past weekend I did see rules clearly posted. From the parking lot to the entrance to CIty Walk Universal has a set of rules posted at their bag check point (which is well before any park or even CityWalk). Not only were the rules posted but at least on this weekend severely enfornced. Since my brother was in a wheelchair we were seated near the front of the stages used for the event. I asked the security guard and she told me Universal had a strict no tolerance policy. Due to my vantage point, I personally witnessed several people enjected for crowd surfing, running, throwing water bottles, and at least 2 people ejected for fist fighting (all within a 1 & 1/2 hour MXPX concert). I have never seen Disney's security to be as aggressive as Universal was this weekend, but maybe they should be.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I personally witnessed several people ejected for crowd surfing, running, throwing water bottles, and at least 2 people ejected for fist fighting (all within a 1.5 hr concert). I have never seen Disney's security to be as aggressive as Universal was this weekend, but maybe they should be. << I'm all for "aggressive" enforcement of park rules too. But I gotta tell you, I can't remember the last time I saw this kind of guest activity at a Disney park.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I do. During the final days of the MSEP at the MK before they sent it to DLP. I witnessed TWO fights break out on Main Street between guests holding space for family members when the MK was experiencing the worst crowded conditions I have every experienced in that particular park. >>I will never forget a woman who walked into the Disney Store one day - her entire outfil was covered in the words "F--- YOU!". I wouldn't have the guts to walk around in public like that, much less the lack of class to do so.<< Seeing the F-word printed on some guests' tees is now commom at WDW. Then you have that other name brand that spells similarly to the actual word. Just the similarity alone should be reason enough to deny entry into the parks. But Disney does not have the guts to be aggressive, because they are affraid of bad publicity.
Originally Posted By irishfan >>Then you have that other name brand that spells similarly to the actual word.<< Thankfully it seems that this chain (French Conncection UK), have decided to put a halt to branding every item of clothing they make with it's old slogan. From what I can gather the shock value wore off, and people just got sick of it.....shame it took five years.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Seeing the F-word printed on some guests' tees is now commom at WDW.>> I stood in line for Buzz Lightyear at DLP with some teen punk wearing a tee with that word on it. <<But Disney does not have the guts to be aggressive, because they are affraid of bad publicity.>> Yes. The problem is they SHOULD get bad publicity for allowing the bad behavior, but you think Scott Powers or Beth Kassab have the guts to write about it?
