Don't Take Christ out of Christmas?

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    Originally Posted By jdub

    Sprayed-on aritificial snow. As bad for the eyes as it is for the lungs!

    (OH, and J.H.C. hates "Olive Garden" and "El Torito," too!)
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Oh, right.

    Hey now...I like the Garden and El Toro! :mad:



    (I see the savior has better taste than me too! :p)
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    I ate at el torito the other week. It wasn't that bad, I was only nauseous for a couple of hours after.

    We celebrate christmas at my house. We don't have jesus in it, because I think that is all an intrusion on the traditional holiday.

    What I am planning on doing for next year is getting one of those glow in the dark creche scenes with all the wise men and mary and joseph all kneeling around the baby jesus and putting it on my lawn. I will make one change, though, and take the baby jesus figure out and put it behind everyone, where it is ignored and replace the traditional placement of the jesus figure with a glowing present.

    I kind of like what that has to say about the true meaning of christmas.
     
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    Originally Posted By wahooskipper

    Well, that is one way to do it alright. Instead of the glowing present though may I make a suggestion and you could put a glowing Wal-Mart sign there instead? Or, maybe a glowing smiley face with the "falling prices" theme.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    The problem with the glowing walmart sign is that you can't just go buy one. You can get all the stuff I'm talking about at Home Depot.

    Besides the walmart sign might be too conspicuous.
     
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    Originally Posted By wahooskipper

    We don't see eye to eye very often but that is pretty creative. Let me know how it goes.
     
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    Originally Posted By Maxxdadd

    I have a plan to get one of those animated deer, and then make an animated hunter. He raises his gun, a flash of red light on the end of the rifle, and the deer flops over.

    Venison for Christmas Dinner! Then we don't have to Take Jesus out to El Torito.
     
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    Originally Posted By Sara Tonin

    Is venison kosher?
     
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    Originally Posted By imadisneygal

    Venison can be kosher if it is killed according to the laws of kashrut. So yes, deer is allowed! :) If you were asking that question in jest then I'm sorry for giving a serious answer!
     
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    Originally Posted By Sara Tonin

    I was serious.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    I don't know if it is Kosher, but I had vennison in a French restaurant the other week, and it tastesd ok to me. Kind of like, well beef, but slightly different.

    Do deer chew their cud or have cloven hooves? I think the only kosher animals must chew their cud and have cloven hooves. Like cows and goats. I don't know if deer falls into that category. I THINK it does.
     
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    Originally Posted By imadisneygal

    Yep, deer is definitely a kosher animal. The catch in some countries (I read this little factoid on Wikipedia) is that it can't always be killed according to the laws of kashrut because, in certain countries, the deer can only be killed in the open and to be kosher it has to be killed by having its neck sliced open and the animal must be drained of blood immediately. So even though the animal is prospectively kosher, people who adhere strictly to the laws of kashrut won't eat venison (or any other kosher meat) that hasn't been killed according to the laws. On AskMoses.com one of the rabbis posted that deer and gazelle are both allowed and that all of the animals allowed are listed in Deuteronomy. The rabbi goes on to note that he knows of only one shochet (ritual slaughterer) in the U.S. who slaughters deer. He says that there isn't much market for kosher venison. Deer both have cloven hooves and chew their cud so people who just follow the "animals for consumption" rule as opposed to the kosher slaughter rule can eat venison.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    So chicken is out?
     
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    Originally Posted By Sara Tonin

    Chicken is in as long as it isn't KFC.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Well I'd say that's not religious law, just good taste. :p
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    Speaking of good taste, religious law, food, and taking the Christ out of Christmas, how about this one:

    <a href="http://www.unlawyer.net/?p=728" target="_blank">http://www.unlawyer.net/?p=728</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Well, they're not a christian country, you see.

    Everyone knows Jesus ate ham for christmas...

    er, wait. no. He was jewish right?

    Maybe he did grab a bucket. :p
     
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    Originally Posted By imadisneygal

    Yep, chicken is in. Most fowl are in as long as they are killed by a schochet. The rule for birds is that they can be kosher as long as they're not predatory. Ostrich is out, chicken is in. I was once chased by an angry goose and it bit me on the stomach. Personally I'd rule out geese but they're still considered kosher-able birds. It's sort of complicated. I could explain it but I'd need charts and graphs and an easel. :) (That's a line from The American President, not me trying to be condescending.)
     
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    Originally Posted By jdub

    <<...as long as they are killed by a schochet.>>

    Hmm.

    But, how do they get them to stick their chicken fingers into the outlet?
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    I didn't know ostriches were predatory...

    Oh, by the way, if you want to keep kosher, I suggest avoiding the "Turkey" legs at Disneyland. I was told last month they are mostly made of pork.
     

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