Originally Posted By imadisneygal Oh, if there were two costumed CM's at the load belt I can't see a reason why there was an uncostumed manager there at all. I was under the impression that the mangager was the only CM at load which would have made sense if there were no other CM's available and the manager was filling in for a short time. I can remember there being only one costumed CM at the load position and one at unload. If there were two others in costume one of the CM's may have been a trainee so that they were not yet officially allowed to be by themselves? Either way, with two other CM's I can't think of any reason for someone out of costume to be there unless there is a safety issue.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice It was just really crowded... But I know we often see a CM at the panel (handling "creep mode," etc., and then another one standing by the "stairway" - sometimes doing nothing but watching riders go by; sometimes lowering the front panel of doombuggies. That's not unusual even on slow days in December.
Originally Posted By jonvn why don't the doombuggies lower the bars themselves anymore? Was this removed as a safety issue or is the thing just broken?
Originally Posted By wonderingalice I've noticed the panels pretty much PLOP closed... hard... if a CM doesn't do it manually. So, even though they DO lower on their own, I'd say they're broken. I remember them lowering slowly on their own years ago.
Originally Posted By mansionmaid Every so often managers will step in to watch and make sure that their CMs are doing their jobs correctly. I guarantee you that he would not have been standing in that spot for more than a few minutes. He would not have been in rotation. As was originally said, "Obviously, [his spieling] was directed at the kids who might choose to have their own, solo ride or groups of friends/family that could ride together nice and snug." Anyway, I loved the story, it made me laugh, so thanks for sharing!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Greetings mansionmaid and welcome to LP! Always great to have another person aboard! Are you a Mansion cast member (past or present)? You seem to know the rotation pretty well for just a random guest...
Originally Posted By mansionmaid Thank you! Yes, I am a current maid of the mansion, and love every minute of my job
Originally Posted By wonderingalice mansionmaid... Thanks for the input! I would SO love to have your job!! And my husband, Mr. Alice, with his very dryyyyy demeanor (dry on the outside, mischievious on the inside), would be a great "butler." *L* I hope we'll have the opportunity some day after we retire from this real world stuff. ;-)
Originally Posted By monorailblue On the contrary, it wasn't obvious at all. An adult man tried to jump in a doombuggy with total strangers! Also, Ms. Maid, in brushing off the incident with a flippant nod, you fail to acknowledge the Courtesy and Show gaffes, assuming (without any facts) that it was only temporary, and that the manager (who is described as facing and spieling to Guests) was actually there to observe CMs. Courtesy and Show are important--important enough to discuss and promote--oh, yeah, and to incoporate into your work as a CM. They do not deserve the casual shrug of the shoulders they have been given. Sigh. CMs, including managers, assistant managers, general leads, and whatever else they may have on the books today, are just as responsible for the Show as everyone else. The quintessential Show blunder is the headless character having a smoke backstage being seen by Guests. If you guaranteed that such a thing only happened for a few moments, would you also laugh it off as trivial? A thousand trivial things often add up to something big. Too many examples come to mind to list them . . . .
Originally Posted By mansionmaid wonderingalice: you would definitely love it, and one day maybe I'll see you around! monorailblue: Obvious or not, it was a funny story. It would be unreasonable to expect managers to be in costume for each different ride every time they drop in for a couple minutes. "Without any facts"? Believe me when I tell you that managers do not step into rotation for any amount of time. That's what the leads are for. Not to mention that where he was standing is not at all a position in rotation. Also, ALL of the four keys are continually stressed to us, so no worries there. To worry about the downfall of Disney's show based on viewing a manager inside the haunted mansion is unnecessary.
Originally Posted By monorailblue <<Also, ALL of the four keys are continually stressed to us>> With little lasting effect, apparently.
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>" To worry about the downfall of Disney's show based on viewing a manager inside the haunted mansion is unnecessary."<<< What worries me is not the viewing of a manager but the utter disregard about the safety of children when it sounds as though just anyone could be put in their doombuggy with them. Maybe it ought to be stressed to CMs especially THAT particular CM-manager or not- that guest safety does not mean JUST getting on/off the ride. Had their been a strange man shoved in with my children-there would have been a big-ol-scene at the end of that ride!
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I was just thinking the same thing! I am adult but would not want a strange person in that long dark ride in my doombuggy. Disney just asks to be sued over and over again. Didn't somebody once mention that the concentration of child predators live in the Disneyland area?I hope somebody from Disney is reading this and makes a copy to send to the next Disney management meeting. this could be very serious!
Originally Posted By santoanderson Well, if I ever hit up HM on a busy day, I'll have to jump into an empty buggy, muss up my hair a bit, start scratching like the old leprosy is acting up, and drool a bit. That'll keep the dunderheads away. Now, I am visiting DLR when all the cheerleader competitions are happening, so I'll have to practice switching slobber mode off.
Originally Posted By mansionmaid monorailblue I really am sorry that you feel that way. I can understand of course what everyoe is saying about the doombuggy loading, but I think it can also be understood that standing at load of a continually moving ride does not leave much time for deciding which people belong to which groups. In my opinion it should be the responsibility of the parent to make sure that their child has gotten onto the ride before they get in their own, if riding separately.
Originally Posted By pecos bill Thats fine, but at the last moment a stranger is directed into the kids buggy. Then your kid is freaked out by going on a scary ride with a complete stranger. As I said before, completely unacceptable.
