Originally Posted By Mr X ***P.S. I have been nothing like that for the past 35 years. But damn. It was fun while it lasted!!*** You're darned lucky there's a statute of limitations, buddy. Otherwise Passholder would be all over you! ;p
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I know. Actually, I think if more of us Boomers had remained stoners for the next 35 years the world would have been a helluva lot better off than it is today. Instead, we got all wrapped up in making money and living the big lifestyle and contributed mightily to the crappy spot we are at today. To bad the promise of "Flower Power" never actually came to pass.
Originally Posted By dshyates I think the isssue of driving on dope is a touchy and personal issue. personal in that it depends on the person and how much and regularly smoke. A daily pot smoker. The kind that do two bong hits before they get in the shower, are probably safer when the have smoked (me in the 80s). But someone who rarely smokes become too intoxicated to drive very easily (me now). I took two hit off a J. not long ago and there was NO WAY I would have attempted to drive.
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin You just enforce the same laws that are on the books now...DUI-Driving Under the Influence...doesn't matter what the substance is, driving impaired is against the law... I tend to think that folks schmooking are more likely to stay home and bake cookies or order pizza than to go out on the road...or so I hear.
Originally Posted By dshyates "stay home and bake cookies " I think you meant "Stay home, get baked and eat cookie dough".
Originally Posted By RoadTrip << But someone who rarely smokes become too intoxicated to drive very easily (me now). I took two hit off a J. not long ago and there was NO WAY I would have attempted to drive.>> Smoking dope today is WAY TOO STRONG. That is why I stopped so long ago. It was no longer fun. It seemed like you took two tokes and you sat in a corner totally out of it for the rest of the evening. That is NOT a "nice buzz".
Originally Posted By Mr X Might that not change if it were legalized? I suppose legitimate companies could come up with all sorts of "light" options, not to mention the customers' ability to know how strong it was in the first place (similar to knowing the proof of your vodka, right?).
Originally Posted By dshyates I admit I still enjoy it, but i am far to busy to have time to be stoned. Between jobs, kids, elderly parents (ok, they are a reason I should smoke) I rarely have a couple of hours to sit around eating chocolate pizza. So after about 15 years of thinking I would get around to it later I just sort of lost interest. And I will say that I didn't lose respect for Michael Phelps for smoking up, I lost respect for him for being dumb enough to get his picture taken obviously using illegal drugs.
Originally Posted By barboy ///I don't think(weed) it is 100% "legal" anywhere/// In Amsterdam, Netherlands, yes. I fired up at an outdoor table in a 'coffee shop'(aka 'brown cafe') along those famous waterways. I practically blew smoke in those street walking cops' faces in April 2007. Those cafes lawfully operate/sell the weed under a local gov't issued license. The proprietor or hired shop help hands you a menu with 10 or more flavors/grades...... you pick...... you pay...... you receive a nicely arranged mini plastic bag full of weed......you grab complimentary roll up paper.......you grab a table and smoke. They also sell juices in those places. Thus, customers may legally buy and smoke at the licensed establishments . It is my understanding that de facto legalization of buying/selling/smoking is basically everywhere in Amsterdam while de jure legalization is found in those 200+ 'coffe shops'.
Originally Posted By barboy ///I wouldn't go that far, it definitely would depend on the person and it isn't a wise thing to do anyway...HOWEVER, I do firmly believe it is far less dangerous than a drunk driver./// I don't know X, weed affects me dramatically---- there is no way, never, can not be, under no circumstance(unless someone put a gun to my head LOL!) that I would drive after consumption........ same with my alcohol habit......I will never drive even with just half of one drink. Both practices (weed and alcohol) can be seriously dangerous while driving but in different ways.
Originally Posted By barboy RT's ////Smoking dope today is WAY TOO STRONG./// X's ///Might that not change if it were legalized?/// Well, the legal Amsterdam stash that I fired up was just as potent as the stuff there in the US.
Originally Posted By barboy ///I think the isssue of driving on dope is a touchy and personal issue. personal in that it depends on the person and how much and regularly smoke. A daily pot smoker. The kind that do two bong hits before they get in the shower, are probably safer /// interesting angle dshyates
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Might that not change if it were legalized? I suppose legitimate companies could come up with all sorts of "light" options, not to mention the customers' ability to know how strong it was in the first place (similar to knowing the proof of your vodka, right?).< How long before some politician brings up the lost tax revenues ?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss FYI: Phelps has been dropped by Kelloggs, and more importantly for him, he has been suspended from competition by USA Swimming for three months.
Originally Posted By dshyates Kelloggs dropped the whole Olympic team in December when their contract expired. And I believe they had decided they weren't going to renew Phelps' contract prior to this, but are trying to look moralistic for PR reasons.
Originally Posted By Mr X "I did it when I was young, and so did former President Clinton, and a recent study has indicated that nearly HALF of the American citizens have done it at some point. It is impossible to label something as a "crime" unless you are willing to call half of the American population a bunch of criminals. Therefore, as my first official Presidential Pardon, I am pardoning Michael Phelps of any wrongdoing as far as smoking marijuana is concerned. And while I'm at it, all the rest of the Americans having tried it are pardoned as well, in future as well as in past." "Change..we can believe in!" <--X wakes up.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I think this entire episode just shows how hypocritical our society's attitude is towards marijuana. For starters, it certainly isn't a performance enhancer, so if Phelps was smoking during the Olympics it makes his accomplishments that much more impressive, as far as I'm concerned. But more to the point, I'm on record here previously as saying I think it should be legalized. To borrow a phrase, regulate the snot out of it, but as long as we allow adults to smoke cigarettes and buy alcohol (and I definitely maintain that once most people have smoked one or two joints, they've achieved the desired buzz and stop, whereas we all know far too many people who do not stop at one or two Cadillac margaritas for example, or Long Island Ice Teas), it is ridiculous that an adult can't buy an ounce of weed at a licensed retailer, pay taxes on that purchase, and then smoke it in the privacy of his own home. Just by way of comparison, I'd much rather encounter someone who just smoked a couple of bongloads than someone who was hammered on Jagermeister. So I'd like to know just how many of these self righteous people who are criticizing Phelps have never gotten drunk, lit up a cigarette or smoke a joint themselves? Putting aside the role model aspect for a moment (although why one needs to I don't know, because as I said earlier it certainly doesn't seem to have hampered any of of HIS accomplishments), just what has Phelps done that is so horrible? In my opinion, he's human, he's done nothing wrong.
