Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I've noticed that too ecdc. I guess because a known liberal is homophobic it's okay for a conservative to be as well? That's the conclusion that is drawn? That's the kind of reasoning a 3 year old would use. Scary.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Yeah, I don't think that San Francisco is a hot market for Duck Dynasty merchandise, lol.>> You have to pass through the Gates of Mordor (Caldecott Tunnel) to find this stuff.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<so how do you all feel about Alec Baldwin ?>> So how do you feel about Mel Gibson? Excellent actor. Loved Mad Max, Braveheart, and the first Lethal Weapon flick. But the guy's an anti-Semitic d-bag. I'll watch his films. But no way I'd ever endorse him as a human being worth anyone's time beyond the professional.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Well, surprise, surprise. A&E has "lifted" the "suspension." What a joke. They'd already shot the upcoming season, which Phil is all over, and said they'd have to show that because it was already in the can. Now they're saying the "suspension" is lifted and they'll be shooting him in the next season to be shot also. So how, exactly, was this any kind of "suspension?"
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>they'll be shooting him in the next season<< Hey, spoiler alerts pal!
Originally Posted By Tikiduck I am sure some A&E publicity executive deposited a nice bonus check today. Another mind numbing season of duck billed dimwittery!
Originally Posted By Yookeroo I don't much care that the suspension is over. A&E can do what they want and need to make money. I never watch the show. But what is appalling (but not surprising) is that conservatives, particularly conservative leaders, were so quick to jump to support a homophobe and a racist. The GOP hates to be considered the party for the racists, but they sure have no problem with very vocal support of racists.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer The whole thing was a duck call of sorts, except it was intended to bring the teabaggers and racist conservatives (aka Fox News fans) to the show to increase ratings.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: I'm not sure how true this is but there's another event that could be about to take place that will really bring this topic to a head--if it happens. There is a rumor 'floating' around that a gay couple intends to be married on a float during the Rose Bowl Parade for New Year's Day 2014. Can anyone confirm this? If it really happens it may just eclipse Mr. Robertson's comments completely. Supposedly there are already protests against this idea.
Originally Posted By mawnck Hadn't heard about that one (and I live in Southern California, so go figure). It appears it's true. >>The couple – which owns Santa Monica-based D.N.A. Salon – won a lottery to formally wed on New Year’s Day in Pasadena, on top of a float dubbed "Love is the Best Protection" sponsored by the AIDS Healthcare Foundation.<< <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Rose-Parade-Gay-Couple-to-Wed-on-Float-AIDS-Healthcare-Foundation-Boycott-237707681.html">http://www.nbclosangeles.com/n...681.html</a> >>Supposedly there are already protests against this idea.<< There's a Facebook hate page, of course, which I ain't linking to. I doubt it's going to eclipse anything. I'm sure it's going to be sweet and classy, and the reaction from the fascists is going to be totally disproportionate as usual. Just another pointless culture war skirmish, widening the divide between the derpsters and the rest of us.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf "There's a Facebook hate page, of course, which I ain't linking to." The Facebook page is calling for a boycott of the parade altogether and a boycott of the sponsors, including Disneyland. There are only 1,195 "likes" so far but I imagine that will grow.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Please let them boycott Disneyland. It'd be nice to have a few dozen fewer people in the park, and if they are willing to boycott love then Disneyland will be more pleasant without them anyway.
Originally Posted By ecdc So just to be clear, in right-wing thinking, a homophobic redneck getting his reality show back is awesome, but millions of people getting healthcare is a tragedy. Got it.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>but millions of people getting healthcare is a tragedy<< Because they believe that they are going to be paying for other people's healthcare via increased taxation. Nevermind that many of them pay no income tax at all because they're poor. Of course, these people consider themselves "middle class".
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Don't forget that typical right wing thinking includes the almost gleeful anticipation of Revelations and Armageddon. Who needs government when you have that great dictator in the sky calling the shots? <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://youtu.be/8Z7GrbXEKHo">http://youtu.be/8Z7GrbXEKHo</a>
Originally Posted By Donny "Were you expecting we would support Alec Baldwin's disgusting rants, Donny" I had no idea what any of you would say. P.S. skinnerbox, Ido not read your posts
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf "Because they believe that they are going to be paying for other people's healthcare via increased taxation." Um, they are. Who do you think is paying for the subsidies? "Nevermind that many of them pay no income tax at all because they're poor." Do you really believe this? If so, you are as guilty as the Fox news junkies who believe Obama is not a legal citizen. The rich may not pay as much as you want them to, but they pay a hell of a lot more than you and I do. "Of course, these people consider themselves "middle class"." Not sure what you're talking about - wealthy people don't want to be considered middle class. They are proud to be one percenters (even prouder to be the one percenter of one percenters).
Originally Posted By Dabob2 ED, you misread fkurucz's post. He was talking about lower middle class or poor Duck Dynasty fans. Most probably do consider themselves middle class, yet many are in Romney's famed 47% who pay little to no income tax (because they're retired or due to the EIC) but it never even occurs to them that they're in that so-called "taker" class because they're either retired or do have jobs (and thus paying payroll taxes, sales taxes, etc.)... and because they're white, dammit. Of course, this fits the lion's share of Romney's so called "takers" except in some cases the white part. MOST of the "takers" are actually either retired or working in low-paying jobs, but these white DD fans just don't think of themselves in that way - the takers are those "other" people... you know the ones we mean... These DD fans won't be paying for anyone else's health care, and may well be eligible for subsidies themselves, yet they'll moan all day about how they're somehow paying for Obamacare because they've been led to believe that they are.
