Originally Posted By WorldDisney Wow, this hasn't made it to the 'World Events' page yet? Give it a few more posts . Couldn't care less Dumbledore character was gay or not and it IS a cop out she didn't talk about it or reveal it some way. On the other hand, its kind of cool . When you think aobut it, we live in a White heterosexual world, so when I see the guy in the movies (only read the first book), yeah I don't really think about it AT ALL what his preference or any of them, but yeah I would automatically assume he's straight before gay. That's just the way it is. Most people here assume I'm White before anything else, so its kind of cool that we let our assumptions change our POV on everything. So yeah, its kind of cool to know he's 'just gay' without a big deal about it---but STILL a big cop out the author decided NOW to mention lol. I mean, even if she didn't to explore anything, she still could've mentioned it like she just did when she was writing book 3 and not wait until after book 7 was done. I assume she would be worried about the controversy like someone else said because I'm sure there are no gay teachers and head masters anywhere in the world---or at least Iran . And yes, the book series is over, but there are two more movies to go and I imagine if this catches on in terms of news, everyone will be looking at him VERY differently in the next few lol.
Originally Posted By dshyates She didn't come out and say it in the books, but as a gay man, I did pick up on Grindlewald's unusual influence over his younger frind. I would like to go back and read through that section of the 7th book, but I have loaned it to a friend.
Originally Posted By ecdc Shooba's exactly right about Rowling's characters. The world she's created is on par with Star Wars or Star Trek in that the really die hard fans look for every scrap of information and every tiny detail to further the mythology she's created. Those who haven't read the books more than once or not at all understandably won't see what the big deal is. But for fans (and I count myself as a fairly casual one) it's another welcome piece of information. This sort of thing is catalogued on websites all over, along with some random detail she let slip in an interview in 2002 - nothing is too mundane. And hypertyper's bigoted post is just beyond absurd.
Originally Posted By mele I read that Rowling mentioned Dumbledore's sexuality to the director because of something referring to Dumbledore and a famale in the movie currently being made (or scripted). Not sure if that is true, but it would explain why she's saying something now.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut well if it was a publicity stunt to get more people to read the book, it didnt work on me. Still cant get past the first page of the first book without throwing up.
Originally Posted By Mr X **People being offended by a blatantly bigoted post (equating homosexuality with pedophilia) does not constitute "political correctness". But, yea, bringing pedophilia into this mix, is ridiculous.** Nobody brought pedophilia into this mix. I made a "dirty old man" joke about a FICTIONAL character who was always a little weird to begin with, something akin to the old Jon Belushi SNL gags about a part time drunken Santa and the parents who were reluctant to put the kids on his lap. Nothing was mentioned or even SUGGESTED about Dumbledore wanting to bend Harry over and rape him...as so many people here seem to want to imply. Brother, this is just silly. GEEZ, will you people get over yourselves?
Originally Posted By Mr X Here it is in a nutshell, I make an innocuous "dirty old man" joke. The man happens to be gay; enter enraged gay guy who has decided from my one sentence joke that I am "homophobic". "No", I reply, "I'd have made the same joke if it were about an old man and a young girl". No longer able to sustain the homophobe accusation, I get this, "OH, I see...you think pedophilia is FUNNY then? How DARE you?" Well, no. No, I don't. In fact my views on the matter are well documented on LP, to the point where I frankly encouraged people to abandon their religion rather than contribute financially to an organization that shelters child molesters. None of THAT, mattered though, as a gang of "offended" folks jumped in to express their outrage. Seriously guys...sometimes a joke is just a joke. I really hope Trey and Matt are reading this thread, it'd make an excellent episode for South Park.
Originally Posted By Mr X Here it is in a nutshell, I make an innocuous "dirty old man" joke. The man happens to be gay; enter enraged gay guy who has decided from my one sentence joke that I am "homophobic". "No", I reply, "I'd have made the same joke if it were about an old man and a young girl". No longer able to sustain the homophobe accusation, I get this, "OH, I see...you think pedophilia is FUNNY then? How DARE you?" Well, no. No, I don't. In fact my views on the matter are well documented on LP, to the point where I frankly encouraged people to abandon their religion rather than contribute financially to an organization that shelters child molesters. None of THAT, mattered though, as a gang of "offended" folks jumped in to express their outrage. Seriously guys...sometimes a joke is just a joke. I really hope Trey and Matt are reading this thread, it'd make an excellent episode for South Park.
Originally Posted By jdub >>And yes, the book series is over, but there are two more movies to go... << Well, Dumbledore the movie character is clearly gay. I mean, just LOOK at those embroidered gowns, & the cocktail glass ornaments he wears in his beard...
Originally Posted By jdub >>Still cant get past the first page of the first book without throwing up.<< Wow, that's never happened to me for ANY book or other source of entertainment! In fact, I'd consider this utterly incredible outlandish condition worthy of a look by Dr. House!
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>But, yea, bringing pedophilia into this mix, is ridiculous.<< Mr X WASN'T equating homosexuality with paedophilia! He just made a joke which has been blown WAY out of proportion. I'm not gay, but have many gay friends and am particularly sensitive to homophobic comments, but I just don't see that as one (look to post 29 for a really homophobic standpoint which, curiously, has attracted much less heat than one throwaway line, which I can't really understand). IF Dumbledore was bringing Hermione back to his bedchambers for "private chats" after hours (particularly if he was straight), I'm sure there'd be more than a couple of eyebrows raised about it, but everyone's acting like it's absurd to even suggest that anyone would think it inappropriate. (Before anyone can say it, I'm not suggesting Dumbledore was hot for Harry - I think the relationship was more father-son and totally innocent.)
Originally Posted By dshyates Dumbledore was one stylin' old dude. Thats how I'm gonna dress in a few years. Purple and Gold robes, stylin' hat and bedroom slippers. You'll be able to pick me out at the mall.
Originally Posted By jdub >>You'll be able to pick me out at the mall.<< The Red Hat Ladies'll be scrappin' over ya, for sure!
Originally Posted By threeundertwo >>As I stated earlier, I did not read the books, so excuse my ignorance, but, why put that out there now? Does it make certain aspects of the story, and his character, more clear?>> She was reviewing a script for the next movie and corrected a section detailing his past loves. Personally, I always thought it was obvious that he was gay. Maybe there's something weird about me seeing that. I think it was his fondness for lemon drops that tipped me off. . . [*ducks*] Here's one of the stories about it: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR2007102100683.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR2007102100683.html</a>
Originally Posted By threeundertwo And he never told the truth about what he saw in the mirror of Erised.
Originally Posted By onlyme Mr. X, I wasn't referring to your post. >>People being offended by a blatantly bigoted post (equating homosexuality with pedophilia) does not constitute "political correctness".<< I was just agreeing with this post. But, I'll try to get over myself. It'll be hard, though.
Originally Posted By onlyme >>And he likes chamber music.<< Not, the harp, per chance. I must be gay, too.
