Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 "or maybe even finish my DLP Trip report while everything is fresh." <<Yes please...>> Going to try some tonight. I have to be in LA this tomorrow due to an issue with work om my second residence and I'm 'hoping' to visit DL after the crazy premiere is over on Sunday.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I asked a question, and you responded. Though your certainly NOT my favorite person on this board, I freely acknowledge that you know more about TDWC than me, and that's fine. I asked a question, and you responded. I didn't like the way you responded. It's that simple.>> Fair enough. But you read something into the response that wasn't there. Something negative. Believe me, if I wanted to be a [blank] toward you or anyone else, I could be. But I wasn't ... and, frankly, this whole deal blindsided me. <<I apologize for the name calling. There was a much better way to put how I felt about you, but instead my fingers started typing before the filter on my brain engaged itself. Again, my apologies.>> Apologies accepted. <<"Unless someone comes out and says I am the all-knowing being in the universe on all topics - why not learn from people with more knowledge than oneself ?">> <<I don't have a problem learning from someone else-I have a problem with attitudes, and I'm not the only one. If was the only one who had a problem with Spirit, I'd keep my mouth shut and chalk it up to two different personalities rubbing each other the wrong way. However, there are many people here who have the same feelings. I'm the one who decided to call him on it. Sue me.>> I'm sure there are people I rub the wrong way. Some because of what I say, some because of how I say it, some because they just don't like anyone. While I'd like it if everyone just thought I was a swell spirit, I really don't care about it. I don't want the messenger to be the issue ... I'd much rather it be the message. But it's good to know I have a fan club and that some people have nothing better to do then send emails to each other whining about a poster on a Disney fan site! <<Also Spirit, you ASSUMED I'm one of the socially blind masses who shop at Wal-Mart; I assure you I do not shop there, and as I stated in an earlier post that is not the extent of my social and community awareness.>> Great. Glad to hear both. My social and community awareness go a lot further than opting to never set foot in a WalMart too. But I don't intend to post a resume either ... <<I just have one bit of advice, one I'm damn sure you won't take but think about it. If you have such strong negative feelings about me (or anyone else here for that matter), why engage them in discussion?>> <<Because I often feel the same way about the direction of the company that you do. Because I agree that you know more about TDWC than me and I like to discuss the company.>> Good. Then let's do that ... <<Because I'm not going to let you have the last definitive word without responding-that would be appealing to your seemingly self-satisfying nature, and I'm not going to do it.>> Again, you're reading an awful lot into a person you have never as much as had a real world conversation with. Is this how you judge people in the real world. By how they look? How they speak? What they wear? You know nothing about me beyond my knowledge of an entertainment company. Nothing. <<Spirit, let's agree on a few things - let's agree to disagree and allow this topic to rest.>> It'll rest when no one has anything else to say or someone runs and cries to Doobie and the thread gets locked down. I believe in letting things take their natural course. When I run out of anything I feel adds to a discussion, I will stop posting in it ... <<You don't like me, I don't like you - let's move on for the sake of the other posters in this community. I've said my piece and I'm ready to walk away from this topic. >> Then walk away ... I still have things to say, so I'll be here.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I embrace dissent, I'm always up for a lively debate on who the better band is The Beatles or The Rolling Stones.>> Oh c'mon. That isn't even a debate. Beatles all the way. Stones are great, but Beatles defined an era. <<I'm sorry I thought I made that statement perfectly clear by playing up on the old phrase "America Love It or Leave It", evidently I didn't make my jest clear enough.>> Some things just aren't clear on a message board. That's what I've said for a long time. And that 'America Love it or Leave It' just gets on my nerves. I can't believe how that Vietnam War relic was ressurrected when we attacked a soverign nation for no reason other than we could and our prez wanted it badly .. sorry, I said no politics but I see something and ... nevermind. >> I love America. I do not love what Bush and his cronies have done to it. And I am a registered Republican. No, I won't prove it. << <<I never requested proof of your party affiliation, and I certainly would never do so. I do not doubt your word, you have never given me reason to question your honesty.>> Thanks. <<I will respect that statement, and not request anymore clarification of political matters in this thread also. However I still would like to know what "Homespun WalMart Talk" is. I also share your Strong Dislike of WalMart. >> IMHO, it's a dumbing down talk to the simple folks in the Heartland, the ones who are scared to death that things like gay marriage, abortion, socialized medicine etc ... will destroy America. I think we have a WalMart leader for a WalMart age. And if you think I hate seeing WDW WalMarted, you can imagine what I think of seeing my beloved country being done likewise. >> Uhm ... I am suffering from a Nikki moment and I don't want to attack you for it, so can you clarify as to what administration you're speaking of? George Bush's or Meg Crofton's? << <<The Bush administration, and the President, it was the reason for my last post. I am interested in your on going dislike of Meg Crofton being selected head of WDW, that's because it pertains to WDW, and that's what this forum is about.>> I have very little opinion of Inoverherheadmeg (btw, at the risk of being called a blowhard, I've heard my nickname has caught on at Team Disney! I love helping out!). Basically, it's because she is a total figurehead. Al Weiss and Jay Rasulo still make the big desicions and Erin Wallace still runs the resort on a daily basis. Meg talks to community groups and women's business symposiums and the like, she really does nothing. >> Great./ What would you like my opinion on about WDW? I have plenty ... and I love sharing. << <<Anything, and everything, how about Meg Crofton, better yet every Disney executive. After you finish your report on DLP how about starting individual threads on a different Disney executive, every week or so. I think everyone would enjoy that, I know I would. I realise it's a huge request but I think your up to it.>> I am up to it, if I have the time, but I'm not sure Doobie is keen on having execs taken apart (or praised, Disney has some great execs like Tom McAlpin of DCL ... and Dr. Beth Stevens at DAK) on a weekly basis. I disagree. Anyone with a high profile job at a company like Disney should be fair game. But we'll see. >> Supper? Must be a New Englander ... << <<I'm about as far away from being a New Englander as you can get. I love to cover my Chicken Fried Steak in Milk Gravy.>> Interesting. I'm a Bostonian who moved to Florida as a child, but still has deep root up there. Supper is a term I've only heard there. Kind of like calling Coke 'tonic' ... wicked retarded if you ask me. >> What's she cooking? Maybe I can ride my Merc... I mean bike over and eat with you. My Mom left me alone and I had to eat at McDonald's. << <<That's OK you can say Mercedes Benz. They make an excellent automobile, I've never implied anything about Mercedes or Honda or anybody who chooses to own such vehicles.>> No. But someone went off on me and VBDAD and Leemac and a few others months ago when we started talking about our wheels. That's what dudes do. And it took me years of suffering with American throwaway cars before I got smart and went to Honda ... and more years until I could afford Mercedes ... I've never regretted any of their vehicles. <<McDonalds is an excellent choice. My only problem with then is trying to decide on a Big Mac or a Quarter Pounder with Cheese.>> I have a great McDonald's thread to follow off my DLP one: Why is McDonald's so much better overseas than it is in the USA? My take: the WalMart effect.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Oh c'mon. That isn't even a debate. Beatles all the way. Stones are great, but Beatles defined an era. << No argument from me on that one. >> am up to it, if I have the time, but I'm not sure Doobie is keen on having execs taken apart (or praised, Disney has some great execs like Tom McAlpin of DCL ... and Dr. Beth Stevens at DAK) on a weekly basis. << I understand how that could be a slippery slope for Doobie, but it sure would be an interesting topic. I have rethought my initial complaint about a political statement in a thread about Disney as inapropriate. That was a form of censorship I was trying to inject on this forum. It wasn't meant to be, but it definitely came off that way. I was wrong, and I will never make that kind of complaint again. >> Interesting. I'm a Bostonian who moved to Florida as a child, but still has deep root up there. Supper is a term I've only heard there. Kind of like calling Coke 'tonic' ... wicked retarded if you ask me. << I'm a native born Texan, and I don't think anyone in rural Texas calls the evening meal dinner, just supper. >> have a great McDonald's thread to follow off my DLP one: Why is McDonald's so much better overseas than it is in the USA? My take: the WalMart effect. << I'm looking forward to it. I didn't think anything could be better than an American made Big Mac. I still remember my first one ever, Washington D.C., 1970. Now I only have one more thing to complain about... >> Pit bull-like DALMATIANS!!! << I think it's a cheap shot when TDLFAN sets up his own Dalmatians post!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I have a great McDonald's thread to follow off my DLP one: Why is McDonald's so much better overseas than it is in the USA? My take: the WalMart effect< something I can talk cahpter and verse on for hours....DW worked for McDonalds Corporate HQ in media relations for 17 years. ( and trust me there are still waiting for the next Big Mac recipe ( even though HQ tried to can that one from one enterprising owner-operator) - I was there in 1996 at corp HQ on Jorie Blvd in Oak Brook when the Village People came in to sign for employees about their new adult tast burger - the Arch Deluxe. It was unbelievably good as Ronald ( a local guy we actually know well) - handed me mine of one of the hundreds of trays -- Here is is problem....I continued to love them -- when they were made at the corporate HQ restaurant....outside in the corp stores and owner op stores where the masses work -- they were never the same. I am telling you this was one of the best tasting fast food burgers ever - when done well and served hot. The problem is ( as I relayed many times to the powers that be ) - that they never ever came with all the ingredients they were supposed to have..it seems like the workforce was untrainable....very frustrating. The peppered thick cut bacon and homestyle bakery bun....leaf lettuce vs the crappy iceberg chopped stuff....it was all good, and at a cost of about $300M. However between the stores not being able to prepare the darn thing, and the fact that everyone very quickly went off on the we don't want fat in our burgers theme (this was about 600 calories and 35 grams of fat ) - a lot of heads rolled after this. Yet, people eat 1 pound burgers at benngians and the like and because it is not considered fast food, they get a pass. This was one great burger...no, not ones everyday meal...but as a treat - you bet. People like Quinlan & Turner ( rest both their souls- good people ) took a beating on this, and it was for the reasons I speak of.....then McD was turned over to a bean counter and suffered badly for almost a decade before rebounding in the last few years.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<That's OK you can say Mercedes Benz. They make an excellent automobile, I've never implied anything about Mercedes or Honda or anybody who chooses to own such vehicles.>> No. But someone went off on me and VBDAD and Leemac and a few others months ago when we started talking about our wheels. That's what dudes do. < yep, those were some magical posts :-(
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Interesting. I'm a Bostonian who moved to Florida as a child, but still has deep root up there. Supper is a term I've only heard there. Kind of like calling Coke 'tonic' ... wicked retarded if you ask me. < interesting, it was always ' supper ' for me growing up also, that would be in Chicago. We also called soda 'pop' which I know some people find funny
Originally Posted By Labuda ^ Yep. All of 'em are Cokes. Sprite? It's a Coke. Dr. Pepper? Another kind of Coke. Oh, and folks that work in restaurants that server Pepsi are ALWAYS apologetic when you ask for a Coke and they say they have Pepsi products. That's time to have the Dr. Pepper variety of Coke.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ somewhere in Altanta an executive is smiling from ear to ear reading this...
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<Yep. All of 'em are Cokes. Sprite? It's a Coke. Dr. Pepper? Another kind of Coke. Oh, and folks that work in restaurants that server Pepsi are ALWAYS apologetic when you ask for a Coke and they say they have Pepsi products. That's time to have the Dr. Pepper variety of Coke. >> Amen sister! They're cokes or, here in my neck of the woods, soft drinks. And dinner is supper here, too. I go out to dinner, but at home I eat supper.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 And in France (or the Netherlands), no matter what it is, it won't come with ice unless you ask for it.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Wow, did I miss a lot. I shut down my pc last Friday night, not knowing that somehow my anti-virus program was going to kill my internet connection. Took until today to get everything straightened out and back on line. You guys have really been going at it. Nothing personal Spirit, but I've learned that just because someone says something, doesn't make it true. So I only know of your knowledge by what you say here. But I don't necessarily know that what you say is true, because I don't have that knowledge. That's not your fault or mine. We lead different lives. I'm strickly a Diet Coke drinker. And I thought supper was the evening meal, but dinner was the BIG meal of the day, regardless of when it was eaten. I're really missed you all, sorry if the feeling isn't mutual.
Originally Posted By smeeeko seanyoda has said a couple of times he likes it because it 'tastes like regular coke' I think the sweetener in it may be different than the regular diet coke. =)
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I am a lifelong Coke drinker....and when I had some blood sugar issues about 15 years ago I switched to Diet Coke. Don't get me wrong, I love Diet Coke -- but Coke Zero ( especially the Cherry version ) - comes closer to Classic Coke taste.... IMHO
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 When they messsed with the Coke formula back in late 80's early 90's, I couldn't drink it any more. The classic gives me raging burning in my chest area. But then they came out with Coke 2, that was great, as long as it lasted. When they stopped that, I had to switch to the diet. There use to be 2 Cokes you could mix (Isreal & ?) at Ice Station that were good, but some were toooo gross.
