Originally Posted By Labuda I like the Kinley Lemon over at Club Cool. There's one other I like, but can't remember it offhand.
Originally Posted By kennect Has anyone tried out Diet Coke Plus? Truly nasty...Then there was Tab that I was forced to drink after being told by my doctor "no more sugar"...All of a sudden Tab seemed tasty...Today it is pure nasty....
Originally Posted By SuperDry Oh, so much to comment on. Coke Zero really is amazing. I would never believe that it was a zero-calorie drink if it didn't say so on the label. The sweetener it uses is so different than the other ones - not only is the taste strong, but it gives the drink a "heavy" quality to it that usually only sugar does. Diet Coke Plus is genious - Diet Coke plus vitamins and minerals. I will finally have a balanced diet! And what else can be said about Tab - the all-time classic diet cola. You can sometimes find it in supermarkets. I love to buy it when I see it, and it's surprising how many conversations I've struck up with people when they see it in my cart - they say "Where did you get that?!?! I had no idea they still made it!" A woman I used to work with said she always bought Tab in college, as if she bought Diet Coke and put it in the dorm refrigerator, it would "disappear," but nobody would ever take her Tab. But regular Diet Coke will always be the classic sweet nectar.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey Coke Zero is the best thing since sliced bread. It tastes much more like regular Coke than Diet Coke. I'm actually enjoying a refreshing Coke Zero right now as I type. I love it love it love it!
Originally Posted By kennect OK, Back to beating the already dead horse....I read Disney's piece about the no smoking policy at WDW resorts...I want to say they claim the fee for smoking is up to five hundred dollars for various cleaning and possible replacement of items such as carpet, etc....Forget the smoking angle for the moment whether it bothers you or not...To me it just seems smarter for Disney to set aside a few rooms for the socalled few request they get for smoking rooms...The new policy seems to me to run a bigger risk of them constantly having to do the socalled cleanup of a room after a smoker has been in the room....And please someone tell me how smoking on a balcony is going to create a problem....Better yet is the idea that they will have smoking areas at each resort but they don't point out where they are on the webpage info....I fully understand the health concerns with smoking but this just seems like another way that they are going to be collecting huge bucks for basically nothing...We were once put into a nonsmoking at WDW even though a smoking room was requested...We were told not to worry about it and to ask housekeeping for ashtrays...They said once we checked out they would run an air cleaner for about forty five minutes and that would get rid of hints of smoking...Since that time I have basically quit smoking but still have several friends that do...I only add that to somewhat explain why I am interested in is topic....Having been a smoker I don't feel I can judge any one who is one now....
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< this just seems like another way that they are going to be collecting huge bucks for basically nothing >>> Basically nothing? I would hope that they actually use the money to replace the items that need to be replaced, and not just run an air cleaner for 45 minutes. For a "smoke free" hotel, I think the expectations of guests will be much higher. The Grand Californian has been 100% non-smoking since opening, and it makes a remarkable difference - just like an airplane that was put in service after smoking was banned. If I were staying at a 100% non-smoking property and they charge people replacement costs if they break the rules, my expectation would be that there should not be a hint of cigarette smoke smell in the room. <<< We were once put into a nonsmoking at WDW even though a smoking room was requested...We were told not to worry about it and to ask housekeeping for ashtrays. >>> I think you're just reinforcing one of the benefits of the new policy. In a 100% non-smoking property, the above would not happen. <<< And please someone tell me how smoking on a balcony is going to create a problem >>> Two reasons: smoke wafts into nearby balconies, and smoke will enter nearby rooms that have the window or door open. Plus, it would not surprise me if in many cases, the door of the room with the smoker on the balcony remains at least partially open so that they can talk to people inside. I wish there were a solution to the problem that didn't crimp the style of smoking guests, and I don't think policies like this should be done for "nanny state" reasons. But I sure do like going into a smoke-free environment.
Originally Posted By Mr X **But I sure do like going into a smoke-free environment.** And you frequently vacation in Japan because??
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< And you frequently vacation in Japan because?? >>> ... that's where TDR is! But you do have a point. And actually, TDR is remarkably non-smoker friendly considering what country it's in. The hotels all seem to have non-smoking rooms that really are non-smoking, and in the parks all of the dining facilities are non-smoking. With the current rules in Japan, the smoking situation is very much like it is in most US states, with one big exception: many small restaurants may not have a non-smoking section. Going out to a bar is almost guaranteed to be a smoky environment in Japan as it is in most of the US (except for California and a few other places). But I know that going in. I guess it's kind of like Las Vegas. One knows that smoking is allowed in Las Vegas, so that's part of the bargain going in. If one wants to go to LV and is a non-smoker, then that's just part of the deal.
Originally Posted By SuperDry And I think I just realized why I like the idea of a 100% smoke free hotel, even when smoking is permitted in bars and restaurants. At least in the US, I can be seated in the non-smoking section of a restaurant. Going out to a bar (in most states) means smoke, but I know the deal going into it. Even though once I get back to the hotel from a bar, I'll be noticeably smoky, and probably not be able to re-wear any clothes I was wearing until they're washed (note to self: stay in a hotel with laundry service), that's the extent of it. But if I get stuck in a hotel room that was smoked in, then *everything* I have takes on the smell: all of my clothes, and even my laptop and camera will smell of smoke for some time once I get back home.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 For once I have to disagree with Nikki, Coke Zero is ok going down, but what a nasty after taste. Never again for me.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> For once I have to disagree with Nikki, Coke Zero is ok going down, but what a nasty after taste. Never again for me. << Try cutting it with some Jack Daniels. I believe the days when smokers were treated fairly or very numbered. Segregated to a small area of the resorts, and parks, I never had one problem with them. When they are eraticated by a non-tolerate society, fat people look out your next.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost And if you are a fat smoker...there is no end to the misery you will endure by the fitness/health police.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey >> For once I have to disagree with Nikki, Coke Zero is ok going down, but what a nasty after taste. Never again for me. << In the immortal words of Sheila Bravslosky...what what WHAT?!?!?!
Originally Posted By SuperDry Now it's been three months since WDW hotels went smoke-free. What has peoples' experiences been? I've stayed in a hotel before that recently went smoke-free, and was put in a formerly smoking room. It was quite noticeable. The entire floor reeked as soon as I stepped off the elevator, as did the room, although presumably neither had been smoked in in some time. I don't think they did much other than a most cursory amount of cleaning. What's the situation at the WDW hotels? Since there no longer are smoking rooms, do they even keep track of what the old room status was? Is there a way to request a room that's always been non-smoking? In practice, is it ever a problem?
