Originally Posted By jsuperk Bring back the mulan parade it was very entertaining even though the movie has had it's run. The street performers were a blast to watch. J
Originally Posted By Futurist I'm somewhat ambivalent about this move. DCA is this fresh and new park, and what it really needs is a shot in the arm with something fresh and new. But after the disaster with Light Tragic;-) I guess they are not sure that they can pull off something entertaining enough to get the masses in. I thought a "for sure" thing they could have done, was a mini Illuminations on the Paradise Pier Lake. That is one big chunk of space that could really be put to GREAT use in the evenings. Such potential there... Instead it lays a waste. It's so expansive. Views from all around.....and they rely on a 24 year old classic parade that belongs in Disneyland. You know...they are doing the same thing Hollywood did in the 1960s when the Hollywood musical's golden age came to an end (Late 50s).... And the only material they would take a risk on, was Broadway hits. Bye-Bye Birdie, The Music Man, West Side Story, Oliver, The Sound of Music ...etc. Ironically Walt was one of few in this decade that put his faith in something original: Mary Poppins. So, today, the same company won't reinstate it at Disneyland, which has been devoid of a night-time parade for 5 years. Instead they will put it in DCA that needs to pick up more paying customers. Can't blame them for that logic. But it just goes to show that original material, and talent (that they are willing to pay) isn't there....and DCA won't be getting something original for the night-time. The thing that will really drive me nuts, is that this parade returns with very minor to NO improvements/ enhancements. But rather will be shorter since the Pinnochio floats are at Disneyland Paris. The only thing interesting I find about this ....is how it will blend in with DCA. Other than that ...it's anti climatic. Glad to see it back....but it isn't going to be any better than when it left in November 1996. California's power supplies for the summer isn't looking peachy. How appropriate they put this in CALIFORNIA Adventure. A parade that originated here in California, and will be flashing it's thousands of lights in the state where we are having trouble keeping the lights on.
Originally Posted By superstarloony Sn sbdolutely terrible idea. MSEP is so out of place at DCA, is dated and the Walt Disney Company lies to us in the biggest way possible, bringing back a parade the retired back in 1991 (WDW) and 1996. This is a very low, sorrowful day in the history of the Walt Disney Company as they decide to do a patchwork job on a seriously hemmoragging park. What is really sad here folks is that MSEP was coming back to Disneyland anyway...now, people who REALLY want to see the parade are being coered by Disney into buying a full-priced ticket to their half-day park...dont be a sucker...dont buy into this.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I'm glad to see the Electrical Parade return so my youngest child will see it again in person (instead of watching it on video). I doubt this will happen immediately, but my wish would be for a major update of the parade soon. Imagine what could be done with floats featuring elements from post-Pete's Dragon Disney films... Aladdin "flying" over parade watchers, Ursula from The Little Mermaid, Lion King, Toy Story and Bug's Life characters, Belle and the Beast dancing through a twinkling ballroom, maybe even a "Flubber" float bouncing along just for fun! "Trashin' the Camp" from Tarzan would meld perfectly into the Parade's theme music, too.
Originally Posted By Ursula Well, I'm happy. I wonder if they will time the end of the first evening parade just right so that we can run over to Disneyland to see Believe.
Originally Posted By superstarloony Heres a funny thought: What if DCA built a parade and nobody came...hee, hee, hee...that would be SOOOOo coool!!
Originally Posted By damon63 >I think this is the wrong decision. A cheap, low stab at loyal customers.< Cheap. Low stab. Such strong words. How do you figure? Please explain. >This is a very low, sorrowful day in the history of the Walt Disney Company as they decide to do a patchwork job on a seriously hemmoragging park.< Goodness, from your tone looney you'd think that Mickey and Minnie had both died in a plane crash this afternoon. And would you please, please explain how you've concluded that DCA is "a seriously hemorrhaging park"?
Originally Posted By cmattson Overall, I like the move. The biggest issue DCA has, in my opinion, is the lack of a nighttime draw, so this is a fix for that. And I remember people saying back during the previews that one of the parts of California not represented in DCA was Disneyland. Well, I always thought that was pretty stupid, since you wouldn't want to make Disneylandland. But this is perfect...Disneyland is a big part of California, and the MSEP is a big part of Disneyland history, so I think the concerns over themeing are pretty minor. I have a question too... I know we lost the Pinocchio unit to Paris, but couldn't we have a gain if they used the Hercules unit from the New York event? Or was that one not saved? It seems odd that it would have been destroyed after one performance, but it wasn't in Florida for the recent run. Anyone know their fate? I thought the Pegasus and Hades floats were very nicely done and they would be a welcome addition here.
Originally Posted By Futurist What about the swans from Tokyo too? I have the music to them ...and it's very beautiful. Very, very melodic. I'd like to think the OLC wouldn't mind selling them to Disney for a cheap price.
Originally Posted By TP2000 What is important to realize is just how sudden and knee-jerk this decision was. It's obvious visiting both Park's on recent sunny and warm days that DCA is noticably under-utilized. They absolutely HAVE to do something, and Burbank/TDA knows it. But there are few quick fixes for DCA, most fixes are going to take 3 or 4 years. Bringing the MSEP to DCA is a quick fix, to hopefully bolster attendance through the summer months. TDA and Burbank needed something, anything NOW! The MSEP just happened to fit the bill. This sudden decision buys them time to come up with a reconfigured DCA plan for 2002-2005. At the very least, it should add a few thousand to the daily counts at the DCA turnstiles this July and August, helping Burbank save some face. But, any keen industry watcher can see through the ploy, and the apparent desperation. Just my .02.
Originally Posted By cmattson Ploy yes, desperation no...at least how I see it. A nighttime event was not included with DCA's first phase. Every park has problems that need to be adjusted for as operation continues. This one probably just had a much larger effect on the bottom line than they predicted. I know there are the people that say "Disney fans everywhere could have predicted this." But remember that all of the Florida parks were added without nighttime draws. This is how it has always been. An initial plan of building the park first and then adding a spectacular production to reboost attendance in a few years probably was the plan, and it does seem like a valid strategy. The reasons why this had such a huge impact here and now would be very interesting to find out. Realizing that it needs to happen sooner rather than later, along with bringing back something a lot of people love doesn't scream of desperation to me...it's more like efficient problem solving.
Originally Posted By doombuggy Tho I'm glad to hear it's coming back there is one thing I'm not happy about. With it being shown at DCA that means we won't hear the original moug voice at the beginning. Ah well I guess you have to give up some thing to get some thing.
Originally Posted By Ottoman Rumor has it that Tokyo Disneylands Fantillusion (ending mid-May) will be making its way to Disneyland Paris. So, the Pinochhio unit as well as the Swans from TDL's ELP should be freed up by the time DCA re-opens MSEP.
Originally Posted By art076 >>MSEP 2001 SpectraMagic 2002 Fantillusion 2003<< God, I hope not! I'd rather see MSEP for two years and then a brand new production for DCA, if financially feasible at the time. Light Magic was intriguing - the night time parade/show concept is something I hope that they can make work properly, as I liked how they transformed the street into a kind of theatre w/ all the nicely done floats and theatrical lighting. Especially since DCA already has the light poles everywhere, I hope they do something good with them. While a return of Light Magic in its 1997 form would be bad, I hope they do something innovative with what they started, and DCA seems a great place to put it. art
Originally Posted By tangaroa Does anyone know yet how much the cost of the probably more-expensive-then-its-worth desert parade viewing at DCA will increase with the return of the MSEP?
Originally Posted By woody They should do a Fantasmic Farewell next year. Sell Tons of Tickets & Merchandise. Then bring it back to DCA in five years. It will be perfect because Fantasmic is also shown at Disney/MGM Studios in Florida. The change will closely align DCA with the Studios park so they will have similar offerings, almost like sister parks. Only misgiving, the could botch Fantasmic's replacement at DL with a Light Magic 2.
Originally Posted By schmittyGoodVibes I find so many things that are funny/ironic about this. DCA is using Disneyland elements and characters albeit the many statements that the two parks would compliment each other but there would be no Disney characters in DCA. I remember too, that everyone I listened to said "I hope they'll update it" or "I hope they'll change the music". Oh well....Personally, I'm going to go see it, and I know I'll enjoy it. I don't want DCA to die and go away, I just want a REAL Disney theme park, and not the Blue Light Special DCA seems to me to be. "Attention shoppers! Right now, in Paradise Pier, we're featuring..wait,...just a moment..Darn Wind!...Sorry. In the Hollywood area we are featuring...pardon me?...Well when is it going to reopen? WHEN?!..O.K. Let me see.....Nancy, can you hand me that sheet with the attractions on it? Thanks. ...HA! When the heck did we decide to call THIS an attraction? Yeah, right. .....here, lets try this..Attention Shoppers! Over at Grizzly Peak we are featuring..Exuse me? That to?..Somebody get me a manager. I can't believe I'm working for such a cheezy place..What? My microphone's o-" So I wish the parade well, and a quick demise, so those clowns will hurry up with the real fixes that need to be done.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Ah, SchmittyGoodVibes, your vibrations are in tune with the Cauldron Girls! Did you know that? Everything you just said makes so much sense. While all of us have our own ideas about what would 'be best', sometimes the only choice is to enjoy what's in front of us--assuming that what is in front of us isn't so terrible that we have to turn away in disgust. But, while I'd prefer a newer parade that was more outstanding that the Electrical Parade, at least it has a certain nostalgia to it that reminds us all of what Disney used to be like in days gone by... ORWEN: (Yawning) How many days did you say had gone by? ORGOCH: Wake up and smell your brew, sister! This ain't no time to be a lazy bones! We're on Laughing Place at the moment! ORWEN: We are? But I'm such a mess! ORGOCH: So, what else is new?
Originally Posted By raer I agree, the MSEP should only be going down Main Stree, hence the name. I don't know how DCA will work out. Where are they going to store it? They don't have the parade houses DL does.
