Originally Posted By MPierce >> He's definitely evolving in his persona, from that original "I'm a hands off, let people do their job kind of CEO." << I just want to know what he means by the traditions of Disney being to constraining. If he means we need to keep improving as a company, setting higher goals than our past traditions did, and improving customer relations with new adventurous, and innovative ideas for entertainment, I'm all for it. However, if he thinks there's one element of quality in the Disney product that can be overlooked to strengthen the companys bottom line, he has me worried. Change has the potential to be a wonderful thing. It also has the potential to suck.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Screamscape is reporting that HISTA will no longer have it's effects maintained. What that means is beyond me, but I'd go with two choices: A) HISTA and the Magic Eye will be closed soon, hopefully for the long delayed, but often discussed Imagination overhaul. or... B) EO is coming back. Let's hope it's the former. As for someone mentioning Depp as Dreamfinder, good God no. That man is seriously getting on my last nerve...
Originally Posted By mousermerf The HISTA effects would be used for EO, no? Well, the floor I suppose, I guess it doesn't use the mice or the mist. Hmm.. interesting, but having your maintenance pulled is a death knell. No matter what is coming, if this is true then HISTA is a lame duck.
Originally Posted By dshyates I can't wait. A film produced by George Lucas, directed by Francis Ford Coppola, and staring THE Michael Jackson. It HAS to be a cinamatic orgasm. What!?! Bad beyond belief? NOOO!!!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Bring it in for Nightastic, close it in the fall, with the rest of the pavilion. There we go.
Originally Posted By brotherdave That date seems way too soon, though I guess it's possible since they already programmed the theatre at Disneyland. Might just need a little tweaking of the Epcot theatre to get it done in time. Hopefully this will only be a temporary run for Eo. He had his day. We need something new and original for the Imagination pavilion that won't be cloned!
Originally Posted By mousermerf Elsewhere it's been said May 2nd woul be the last day for DLP's version of HISTA with the closure until June starting on May 3rd, so that might be the case as well.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper *Grumble* If EO comes back it will be for at least one year, with plans to extend it to two if it's popular enough. Meaning it'll be around for 5, knowing WDW. The Imag refurb is never going to happen...
Originally Posted By mousermerf Epcot's gotta do something in the next year or two though. World Showcase, Energy, or Imagination. Those are the only areas they can reasonably touch right now. Unless they do Wonders but they're in no apparent rush for that.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Or Spaceship Earth... *watches Merf explode* EO would be a nice thing for Nightastic, though.
Originally Posted By mousermerf They'd only do the ending and narration, like they did for the original attraction a few years after it opened.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper You would think Epcot would need something in 2 years, and I would think Imagination would be the first on that list. But who knows. MK has needed something for 15 years before FLE was announced.
Originally Posted By mousermerf When I was doing the attendance charts I started working on one for Epcot plotting it's attendance against changes/additions/etc.. To see if there were any distinct trends. Turns out attendance was pretty bad in 92-93 when they opened nothing (last event was 91 with Surprise in the Skys). 94 was even worse, but they redid Spaceship Earth, introduced Innoventions, HISTA, and began the Flower and Garden festival. Then the park trended up, but got something every single year. 95 the Land was overhauled, 96 Energy and introduced Food and Wine. 97 was supposed to be when Test Track opened. So that year was blank, unintentionally, with Test Track opening in late 98. 1999 they opened the second version of Imagination and redid Innoventions again. 2000 saw the Millennium with Tapestry and Reflections of Earth. 2001, Epcot's absolute worst year, saw nothing - and it got the "Epcot" wand, which is akin the other "worst" year 94 when they branded the park Epcot 94. Bad decisions for the park's brand mark its worst years. 2002 Imagination #3 opens, then in '03 there's Mission: SPACE and Reflections of China. Then 2004 with Turtle Talk opening and Wonders closing. 2005 was Disneyland's 50th and Epcot opened Soarin. That was followed in 2006 by Nemo. 2007? That's when they redid Mexico, Canada, and Innoventions again (new theme, attractions opened sporadically). 2008 they redid Spaceship Earth (late 2007 technically) and in 2009 they put more stuff in Innoventions including its first major "attraction" in Sum of all Thrills and the 3D interactive film Stormstruck. 2010? They're adding restaurants/capacity, redoing lots of shops in World Showcase (the UK is getting redone next, and France has that new perfume place coming). That's actually very similar to 2002, which while "nothing major" did include lots of little things in World Showcase like small additions to Mexico (frozen margaritas, ring carver, those little add-ons). Anywho, as for announcing things.. M:S was announced April of 2000 and Soarin was announced September/October of 2003 (they had begun construction before formally announcing it.) 2-3 years lead time. If anything will open in 2012-2013 they will announce it soon, possibly the end of the year.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>They'd only do the ending and narration, like they did for the original attraction a few years after it opened. <<< Damn, that would make it perfect. Heh...And I could actually see them doing that. It's cheap...and half done. More parallels from this version of SSE to the older versions. I like.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper I seriously doubt the ending will ever be done. It's just an inconsequential detail that won't get anyone else into the park. No, I'd think it'll be UoE or Imag.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer But, it is marketable. And like Merf said, look at how the 86 Version was perceived when they changed the 82 version up a bit. It's doable.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper I really, really disagree. I don't think the normal guest is gonna say, "Hey the last 5 minutes of SSE changed! We need to make a trip!"
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> I really, really disagree. I don't think the normal guest is gonna say, "Hey the last 5 minutes of SSE changed! We need to make a trip!"<<< That's why you market it, and tie it into something else. *coughInnoventionsRefubcough* Seriously, what's up with that? They painted the Breezeways, put up some nice railings, got rid of some old signs, NOW WHAT?
