EO Returning to Epcot

Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

<<This just sounds like to aggressive of an aproach for TDO's style.>>

That's because it's not TDO's idea, its WDI's. Last time I heard TDO may be strongarmed(and no not the Harry Potter kind, unfortunately) into another project.

<<I bet some of the best engeenering designs came while hanging around in the restroom. >>

I come up with the best ideas on the toilet...

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> It was at the annual shareholder meeting, in response to the rabid fanboy's 5 minute rambling about the positive effects of Dreamfinder on the well-being of mankind.

He said, and I'm paraphrasing, "We have no plans for Dreamfinder, but I'll talk to WDI about it." <<

Thanks for the clarification MousDad. I knew you had posted that before, I just couldn't remember where he said it.

So Dreamfinder was never completely off the table. Mr Iger covers himself very well. He saids a lot without actually saying or commiting to anything. He would make a fine politician.

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> I come up with the best ideas on the toilet... <<

Most of my ideas in up in the toilet.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>> He said, and I'm paraphrasing, "We have no plans for Dreamfinder, but I'll talk to WDI about it."<<<


Yeah, and knowing Iger, he didn;t know what the hell he was talking about.

It would be akin to asking Erin Wallace on October 1st 2007 what side of Spaceship Earth she was standing by, what the proper name of the pavilion she was looking at, and where EPCOT was originally dedicated.


And PLEASE, someone tell me, where these references are from.

 

Originally Posted By FerretAfros

I know that the original queue was open to the pyramids above, but was it on the same floor level as the current queue/attraction/Imageworks? I honesty can't remember where the old entrance to the pavilion was, but I can't really picture it being in the same basement location that they're using now. Was it around the side by the theater, where it would have been on the second level of the pavilion?

However, if it was upstairs (like I'm imagining in my mind), that would mean that they completely gutted the buildings, including the floor that the attraction was on, and built an entirely new one below it. That just doesn't seem like something Disney would do, especially since it would require the entire bottom level of the pavilion to have been constructed (much of it below ground level), and just be sitting there while the original attraction ran upstairs.

I know what I'm picturing must be wrong, but it just seems to make so much sense. Especially since people keep referring to how the old Imageworks is still (semi) intact upstairs, that would make sense with the original attraction being up there too. I think I'm going crazy.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>I know that the original queue was open to the pyramids above, but was it on the same floor level as the current queue/attraction/Imageworks? I honesty can't remember where the old entrance to the pavilion was, but I can't really picture it being in the same basement location that they're using now. Was it around the side by the theater, where it would have been on the second level of the pavilion?<<<<

It was exactly as it is now, but if you were to walk into the pavilion, the queue was where all the "iced" glass and the reception desk is now. When you walk out of the "lobby" area of the queue, you are walking onto where the ride track began, and actually over it.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

Ferret- Watch this.


Prepare to be depressed.

<a href="http://www.martinsvids.net/?p=259" target="_blank">http://www.martinsvids.net/?p=259</a>

 

Originally Posted By brotherdave

Where the current Imageworks is now was originally the finale for the ride and the unload area, I believe. There wasn't any exhibits or store on that level. The queue was inside the ground floor of the front glass pyramid. The spiral staircase and elevator can still be seen in the gift shop, plus there were two escalators, one up (near the ride exit), and and one down leading to a breezeway leading up to the Magic Eye Theatre. The Kodak sponsored gift shop was located outside the theatre near the "Leap Frog" fountains. Why they would ever remove any of the original is just beyond me? JII was my favorite attraction just after Horizons.

 

Originally Posted By brotherdave

Oh, by the way, the 2nd floor that housed the original Imageworks is still there, just boarded up and off limits to guests. I've heard that most of the exhibits are still there, but not certain. If that's true, it wouldn't take much upgrading to open it back up.

 

Originally Posted By brotherdave

Here's some views of the original Imageworks, including one that I took in 1988 looking at Spaceship Earth from inside the pyramid on the second floor.

<a href="http://waltdatedworld.bravepages.com/id102.htm" target="_blank">http://waltdatedworld.bravepag...d102.htm</a>

And info and pics of the ride:

<a href="http://waltdatedworld.bravepages.com/id37.htm" target="_blank">http://waltdatedworld.bravepag...id37.htm</a>

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>> Where the current Imageworks is now was originally the finale for the ride and the unload area, <<<

Yep, everything, from the "A Brand New Show" scenes and on are at that point.


Sad, huh?


the video I posted to shows it a WHOLE lot better.

 

Originally Posted By brotherdave

Thanks for that link. You're right...I am depressed of what they did to that wonderful ride. Now, it's just a bare shadow of the original...

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>> Thanks for that link. You're right...I am depressed of what they did to that wonderful ride. Now, it's just a bare shadow of the original...<<<

I know. It kills me. Such an artfull, beautiful IMAGINATIVE experience, turned into a Funhouse.

Word to the wise... Martin's website is entirly like that. Wonderfully....depressing.

 

Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

<<Thanks for that link. You're right...I am depressed of what they did to that wonderful ride. Now, it's just a bare shadow of the original...>>

Imagine version 1.0 being some of your fondest childhood memories, and then riding version 2.0. Soul crushing. Yet, it also started my drive to work for WDC/WDI and better the company, so that's always good.

On another note, there's nothing quite like studying to EPCOT Center music...

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

Biking to it is fun, too.

 

Originally Posted By brotherdave

Some of Disney's best theme park music is from EPCOT Center.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

Was... All those great themes are dead...not even included in the BGM.

 

Originally Posted By -em

I agree with the post about the site being wonderfully depressing..

I never experienced pre-2001 Imagination and never understood why people hated it so bad (though its definitely always been my least fav part of Epcot) but after seeing the video(s) I get it.

-em

 

Originally Posted By mousermerf

"Can they imagine too..?

"Apparently not.."

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

Welcome to the fold, -Em.


Merf, that burned. LOL