Originally Posted By MPierce Thank you very much for the replys Spirit. It seems like Epcot has fallen very short on presenting new cutting edge technology. I still love the World Showcase, but Innoventions seems to have stagnated. Yes I think Jim Macphee has a real love for Epcot, and will do right by it. I'm also worried about the powers that be reining him in. There have been a lot of people that had a real love for Disney that were cast aside for short term profit. I guess all we can do is hope for the best,
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<That's the other thing about "old" EPCOT Center that I miss; theme songs! Each attraction had it's own song, and they were (mostly) memorable. Now, the new attractions have none...well, except Nemo. Test Track, Mission Space, and Energy all lost their songs in makeovers. I hope THAT portion of old EPCOT Center can come back. I miss the songs!>> The original EC musical suite was amazing ... and an integral part of the complete experience. When you entered, it was all upbeat and building up/hinting at the WOW factor you'd soon experience. Hearing the Soarin theme, which I love but feel its out of place in EC, and the Imagination Institute theme and whatever that Mission Space thing is ... well, it in no way compares to the amazing creations of people like the late Buddy Baker, the Sherman Bros, Bob Moline etc ... it's funny how it seems like so much of that gets recycled on WDW CDs because there's nothing worthy to replace it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I'm also worried about the powers that be reining him in. There have been a lot of people that had a real love for Disney that were cast aside for short term profit. >> I don't know. I think they reached a nadir in going for the short term profit as the main business model. It just does so much damage long term. I've actually been hearing some very interesting (and potentially very positive things) about the MK -- REALLY! Now, I don't believe Phil Holmes finally grew a heart or that Erin Wallace suddenly doesn't want to run Jay Rasulo and Michael Mendenhall's initiatives ... but I know the EC 25th (much like DL's 50th) woke up a lot of sleeping giants at Disney. The atmosphere has changed quite a bit and it won't be so easy to run off execs with testicular fortitude. Ask yourself why EC went from no acknowledgment to getting (from what I've been told) is basically a rededication by Bob Iger. There are many forces at play here.
Originally Posted By Mr X **Boy, I can't wait for my December trip now! All the new stuff, and the removal of the wand, plus the return of the classic name!** Gurgi, you're gonna be in O-town in December? Me too! Though I might be skipping Epcot and maybe all of DisneyWorld (SeaWorld and Universal are taking strong priority this trip...plus I heard a rumor that DisneyWorld is totally FILTHY!)... But in any case, give a shout out to me if you see me around town, a fat American (not hard to find) with two gorgeous Japanese babes on his arms (more rare, for sure).
Originally Posted By Mr X **removal of the Ellen lamegeneriss overlay of Energy** Sorry to be contrarian here, but I really liked the Ellen stuff...she's pretty funny, and the old version was BORING BORING BORING except for the dinos. Call me a "quasi-purist" then...Energy was the ONE AND ONLY original Epcot attraction that actually bored me to tears when I was there for the first time in 1983. **I notice a lot of you want to put old stuff back. As much as I miss Horizons, I think it would be a mistake to bring all the old stuff back. Granted, EPCOT Center of old was a better overall experience than Epcot of today, but the park should be a living and growing entity, not a museum.** Agreed 100%...the old stuff is gone. Dead and gone (even wonderful Horizons *sniff*)...but the spirit of Epcot IS forward looking and so it should be. I just hope that the new stuff is more in line with the old "vision" if you will..."testing cars" and "scary trips to mars" are fine for the magic kingdom but don't work for me in Epcot personally (even though they are fun, sure). FUNNY, isn't it, that you could actually compare test track and mission space to autopia and mission to mars on steroids, huh? Couldn't really say that about ANY of the original Future World masterpieces. They were truly unique, each and every one.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "its the UNIVERSEEE of ENERGY!" Yeah, whatever...the pavillion is called that (as well as the old show) called that, but the new show inside Ellen's Energy Adventure. So sue me for calling it "Energy". I do agree about the new show being a bit more entertaining than the old one. That was really the only attraction in "old" Future World that bored me to tears. The only good part (and the only part that's still there) was the dinosaurs. Still, it had 2 theme songs, which are now gone and replaced with a nice score by Bruce Broughton, but nothing "singable". "But in any case, give a shout out to me if you see me around town, a fat American (not hard to find) with two gorgeous Japanese babes on his arms (more rare, for sure)." LOL, forgot to mention one is a toddler, right? I'll be at WDW for a week with a bunch of crazy friends so I hope I can even get time to "relax". I'll keep an eye out though!
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Oh god, that first part makes no sense...that's what happens when you try to edit it before sending and botch it up in the process. Oh well.
Originally Posted By danyoung >the pavillion is called that (as well as the old show) called that, but the new show inside Ellen's Energy Adventure. So sue me for calling it "Energy".< I think you've made an understandable misunderstanding. The original theme some went "its the UNIVERSEEE of ENERGY!" I don't think you were being corrected - the poster was simply singing the song with gusto.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror I've got a hunch how ENERGY will be revamped. But if it happens, I think a lot of people who loved HORIZONS will be pretty happy. It's merely a hunch, based on something that's in the works, and far from reality at this point. Let's just say, if I and a few others get to have our way, a little more of the "future" will return to Future World will return. It'll take months before I can say anything else. And you know what they say about good intentions... But wish us luck.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>> a little more of the "future" will return to Future World will return.<<< I'm wayyyyy too caffeinated right now.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 >I've got a hunch how ENERGY will be revamped. But if it happens, I think a lot of people who loved HORIZONS will be pretty happy. It's merely a hunch, based on something that's in the works, and far from reality at this point. Let's just say, if I and a few others get to have our way, a little more of the "future" will return to Future World will return. It'll take months before I can say anything else. And you know what they say about good intentions... But wish us luck.< Are you legit or what? If you are the real deal let disney know that you have my support as a fan and im sure many other peoples. Just please save the dinosaurs somehow!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<...the old stuff is gone. Dead and gone (even wonderful Horizons *sniff*)...but the spirit of Epcot IS forward looking and so it should be.>> The true Spirit of EPCOT lives on ... and is still going strong ... even if he'll be at DL Saturday for his pre-Emmy magic fest!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Let's just say, if I and a few others get to have our way, a little more of the "future" will return to Future World will return. It'll take months before I can say anything else. And you know what they say about good intentions...>> WOW! I love good Spirited rumors, even when I have no idea what they're about. This sounds very promising, like a lot in the Disney Universe of late. It's almost like a pall has been lifted that drifted over the kingdom for years ... and now, all we need is for the chief pallbearer (JR) to depart and the blue birds will sing and the sun will shine and maybe, just maybe Song of the South will be released on DVD.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Just please save the dinosaurs somehow! >> The dinosaurs are in Animal Kingdom now. We don't need to preserve them at EPCOT.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^If its the dinos vs. a 60 second thrill ride, I'll stick with the dinos! At least you can see them at UoE ... in DAK they're barely visible ...
Originally Posted By danyoung >I'm wayyyyy too caffeinated right now.< Is that what they're calling it these days???
