Originally Posted By mousefun So funny. I have shown so much proof from so many different sources. Dannyboy shows me the same old Bob Grrrrrr again and again. Post 131 was a decent attempt, though, much of it based upon his subjective point of view, while I have readily demonstrated time and time again from many sources the Jungle Cruise AA's are indeed AA's. Posts like this one particulary make me giggle: [And while I have a lot of time for Eddie, he did a great job designing Main Street at DLP after all, he is not an AA expert.] Its the classic, "let me try to slam my subjective POV down the throats of others, at the expsense of belittling well respected imagineers" Shameless, but, it's what people do when trying to make themselves look better than others, that is, to belittle other's knowledge of something they know 1,000 times more than the poster trying to ridicule them
Originally Posted By danyoung I've given up arguing the main point about the JC, as you aren't going to listen to anyone but yourself. But I will point this out: >...they are clearly AA's! They have audio (sounds of elephants) and are animate.< The definition of an Audio Animatronic has nothing to do with whether they generate sound. The "audio" part of the name is based on the early programming system, where audio tones were used to trigger the events. Of course the technology has been upgraded now, and all events are controlled by computer codes. But originally it was audio that ran the show. Not the audio of a talking character, but electronic audio tones that were heard only by the machinery being triggered. And if you're looking for the source on that, try Walt Disney, in the 1967 program From Pirates of the Caribbean to the World of Tomorrow, an episode of the Wonderful World of Disney. So once again, we all laugh at the foolishness of a petty little newbie, who refuses to learn from his clear superiors. TEE HEE! (Hey, I'm just trying to talk in mousefun's language!!!)
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Shameless, but, it's what people do when trying to make themselves look better than others, that is, to belittle other's knowledge of something they know 1,000 times more than the poster trying to ridicule them>> I don't suppose you've ever heard of the pot calling the kettle black.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I would much rather talk about Disney's trend toward removing any trace of AA in all Disney parks. I'm afraid the future of Disney Amusement parks will focus on guests entering specially built theaters to watch outdated 3 D movies.
Originally Posted By danyoung I agree, Tom. I think they started that with DCA. We were all amazed that Disney would build a big mountain ride like the Grizzly River Run and not put in a single AA. Seems to be more the norm now than the exception. It'd sure be nice someday to have a fully immersive environment like Pirates built on a brand new theme (and NOT tied in with any current or past movie!).
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I can only point out once again that TWDC did build " fully immersive environment like Pirates built on a brand new theme;" Sindbad at TDS. Yeah, it's not here in the USA. Too bad it wasn't a smash hit out-of-the-gates. Maybe that might have enticed the company to clone it. It will be interesting to see how the upcoming rehab/retheming will affect interest.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I'm afraid the future of Disney Amusement parks will focus on guests entering specially built theaters to watch outdated 3 D movies.<< Or rides with a hundred scrimms (with nice set decor around them) where video is projected, as opposed to real AAs in the set.
Originally Posted By mousefun [The definition of an Audio Animatronic has nothing to do with whether they generate sound.] Oh my. You just dont quit do you? Especially after showing you over 10 sources that defy everything you are saying. My god (and Im an athiest!) [I don't suppose you've ever heard of the pot calling the kettle black.] No, Im only 25. Think I heard my great great grandma use that once. [I would much rather talk about Disney's trend toward removing any trace of AA in all Disney parks. I'm afraid the future of Disney Amusement parks will focus on guests entering specially built theaters to watch outdated 3 D movies.] That wwould be sad. AA's rule. Especially the one's in JC! [I think they started that with DCA.] Really now? MuppetVision 3-D, Superstar Limo, Monster Inc...all have AA's. Boy, Danny boy!
Originally Posted By danyoung Ahh, it's my little buddy mousefun, come back to stir up another round. It's quite obvious by now that you're not the least bit interested in intelligent conversation - perhaps you're completely incapable of it. So I'll just let my facts stand, point out that we weren't talking about how many AA figures were in DCA, and giggle at the silliness of your most recent babbling post.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<It's quite obvious by now that you're not the least bit interested in intelligent conversation>> Yeah, I'm not interested in the straw man flame bait anymore. He knows he's wrong, but continues in order to get his jollies out of seeing who'll play his game.
Originally Posted By danyoung >He knows he's wrong, but continues in order to get his jollies out of seeing who'll play his game.< It became most obvious with the last post. A child of 4 could have plainly seen that AA didn't have anything to do with audio effects heard on an attraction, but with control of the mechanisms. But he's a cute lil guy who will continue to give us amusement for awhile, I'm betting.
Originally Posted By Socrates I suggest we all look on the bright side. I'm finding this discussion much more enlightening than the current national political debates. Socrates "Get not your friends by bare compliments, but by giving them sensible tokens of your love."
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I suggest we all look on the bright side. I'm finding this discussion much more enlightening than the current national political debates< couldn't be more right there.....
Originally Posted By mousefun [Ahh, it's my little buddy mousefun, come back to stir up another round. It's quite obvious by now that you're not the least bit interested in intelligent conversation - perhaps you're completely incapable of it. So I'll just let my facts stand, point out that we weren't talking about how many AA figures were in DCA, and giggle at the silliness of your most recent babbling post.] Oh, to go the route of ridicule, is the route of ones self-inner exsistence - Erosotus, 1292 BC [I suggest we all look on the bright side. I'm finding this discussion much more enlightening than the current national political debates.] Exactly my point! Dannyboy is a bleeding heart conservative! Ewwwwwwwwyucko! You and your "men" are doomed Nov 7! Bushwacked 2007! Impeech! Impeech!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "Its the classic, "let me try to slam my subjective POV down the throats of others, at the expense of belittling well respected imagineers" Shameless, but, it's what people do when trying to make themselves look better than others, that is, to belittle other's knowledge of something they know 1,000 times more than the poster trying to ridicule them " I don't know when stating my POV is slamming it down someone's throats. Also, I am not belittling Eddie Sotto - I have a lot of respect for his work, DLP's Main Street is amazing. However, to my knowledge (which is about 30 years worth of reading, visits and interviews) he has not worked on any AA projects. I don't have the time to root out quotes here and there. Take me for who I am. Many here know that my knowledge on Disney history is strong. And if you don't take my word on these things, that's fine. It's your prerogative. Now if you want to talk about the worrying trend in AA's look at WDSP - No AA's there whatsoever!
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