Euro Disney SCA Financial Report 2012

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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    I'm not surprised that the new hotel will be character based, though given it's location near WDSP I think Art of Animation would work better. It could even be loosely based on Hollywood to tie in with the existing DLP hotels theme. If we're getting a family-friendly hotel, can I put in a request for some rooms that sleep 6, like the new WDW style suites.

    I guess more characters doesn't mean animation exactly. It could be Marvel, Muppets or Star Wars etc.

    Let's hope occupancy rates don't fall any lower. I'm doing my bit next March!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    >>>It could even be loosely based on Hollywood to tie in with the existing DLP hotels theme. If we're getting a family-friendly hotel, can I put in a request for some rooms that sleep 6, like the new WDW style suites.<<<

    Actually I would like that, but in order to save money I guess it will be an excat copy of either the AoDA or the TS Hotel.
     
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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    You could have the main reception and a few buildings have a classic hollywood art deco feel and then have a Toontown tunnel after which the buildings are themed to various characters from movies and shorts or have the reception look like the animation studios building with the 7 dwarfs and then have movies represented as you "tour" the facility. Both make them grounded to a place in the US, but allow characters to be present in a more natural way than just putting Bambi artwork in the Sequoia!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<If we're getting a family-friendly hotel, can I put in a request for some rooms that sleep 6, like the new WDW style suites.>>

    I think you will get your wish - there is definitely interest in offering family suites outside of Davy Crockett. It makes a lot of sense for DLP.
     
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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    Like you wouldn't believe! The number of times we've stayed off-site for this very reason are too numerous to count!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<You could have the main reception and a few buildings have a classic hollywood art deco feel >>

    You mean like the Hollywood Hotel at HKDL.....


    <a href="http://park.hongkongdisneyland.com/hkdl/en_us/hotels/landing?name=hollywoodhotellandingpage" target="_blank">http://park.hongkongdisneyland...dingpage</a>

    :)))
     
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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    Yeah, though I don't like the colour scheme. That said - it would work in the location.

    I looked at this hotel once before for a relative who was off to HK. I thought it was quite reasonably priced!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    ^^ It's a beautiful hotel for the price. It really is an upgrade on the Ambassador at TDR.

    The color scheme was necessary for HK - the overcast smoggy skies needed something that was off-white hence the cream and it just didn't seem to work with dark colors.
     
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    Originally Posted By u k fan

    Generally when I think Art Deco, I think earth tones (browns, ochres, etc.). They'd probably work better in Paris. The blue might compliment NPB or look too similar, it could go either way.

    I'd love this concept to come to DLP though. I'm gonna stick my neck on the line and say I think an upgraded version of this should be the next deluxe tacked on to a WDSP expansion!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    Could the new luxury hotel be based on the Hollywood Hotel at HKDL?
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    According to the conference call of TWDC Star Wars is going into international parks first. Could Star Wars be part of the expansion of WDSP?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    "You mean like the Hollywood Hotel at HKDL....."

    God do I hate those dumb not-so-hidden Mickey's on the side of the hotel. Horrible.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    It's exciting to think that it could finally be time for more hotels at DLP (since overbuilding the hotels is what caused most of the problems in the first place), but really disappointing to hear that they think they need characters to make them a success. Having stayed at the Hollywood Hotel at HKDL (it's a great location for an early morning price, at a very reasonable price), I think that it would provide just enough character opportunities, while still giving a tasteful design. Nothing I've seen from the new Art of Animation could really be considered tasteful.

    I'm also excited that they're realizing that they need to continue to build out the parks. Hopefully both parks will receive some attention, since DLP could use some new stuff too. While there's still a lot of work to be done at the resort, it sounds like they're heading in the right direction (other than the insistence on characters)
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    >>> Having stayed at the Hollywood Hotel at HKDL (it's a great location for an early morning price, at a very reasonable price), I think that it would provide just enough character opportunities, while still giving a tasteful design. Nothing I've seen from the new Art of Animation could really be considered tasteful.
    <<<

    I would love to see that hotel in Paris. In my opinion it looks great and it fits the American theme of the DLP hotels perfectly. When thinking about the USA, Hollywood always comes to mind.

    >>>I'm also excited that they're realizing that they need to continue to build out the parks. Hopefully both parks will receive some attention, since DLP could use some new stuff too. While there's still a lot of work to be done at the resort, it sounds like they're heading in the right direction (other than the insistence on characters)<<<

    I know it's just wishful thinking, but I would love to see the Indiana Jones Adventures at DLP. Plans already exist for that, but I guess it's way too expensive. I really liked Dinosaur at DAK and since it's the same ride system, it must be even better with the Indy theme.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    I just read that one of ED SCA's directors (not sure if it's the right term) resigned due to the fact that TWDC has too much to say when it comes to DLP.

    The article is in German:
    <a href="http://www.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/management/koepfe/streit-im-plastik-paradies-aufsichtsratschef-von-euro-disney-tritt-zurueck/7366306.html" target="_blank">http://www.handelsblatt.com/un...306.html</a>

    According to the article he criticizes that TWDC neglects DLP in its global strategy.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    ^^ Jeancourt-Galignani has been on the supervisory board since Day 1 back in '89. EuroDisney SCA has the usual dual board (management and supervisory) to protect shareholders.

    He must be 75 by now.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    And he is a director of the supervisory board - he also happens to chair it too.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    Did he really resign because of TWDC having too much influence. It's their product, so I do understand why they want to have as much influence as possible. And since they invested over a billion Euros to buy the debts, it makes even more sense.

    Leemac, do you have any new informations regarding new attractions, hotels or something else about DLP? Currently it's so quiet and only Ratatouille is on the radar.
     
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    Originally Posted By leemac

    <<Did he really resign because of TWDC having too much influence. It's their product, so I do understand why they want to have as much influence as possible. And since they invested over a billion Euros to buy the debts, it makes even more sense.>>

    I don't know - but don't forget the ED SCA is still a public company - so he was going his job which is protecting minority shareholders. If Disney was exerting undue influence over the board then that is a potentially nasty (and illegal) situation.
     
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    Originally Posted By dagobert

    I guess the best would be to delist ED SCA from the Euro Stoxx in Paris. It's not necessary to be a traded company. The involved banks, institutions and Kingdom Holdings could still hold the remaining 60%.
     

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