Originally Posted By monorailblue <<You married, monorailblue?>> Yes. Third child due in about 2 months. Was married before any children were born, so I know I'm a "weirdo" and all that. Additional information: between my spouse and I and both sets of our parents, all six of us, there have been only 3 marriages, so far totalling 76 years. Combined posterity of our parents and our siblings: so far 30. So I do know a bit about marriage and family, I guess.
Originally Posted By iamgoofy I agree with monorail. Cause we argue too much is not a reasonable excuse to get a divorce especially if kids are involved. Grow up and work it out would be my advice. However there are definite reasons worthy of divorce.
Originally Posted By monorailblue Without wishing either to co-opt the thread (I have an uncanny ability to get people like Jim mad at me), or revealing any confidences, tenesmus happens to be a sibling of mine, too, so if you want to rag on my acquaintance with the virtues of marriage, you can ask said sibling (also married, only once, happily and stably, great spouse, variety of great kids). As for "should have been kicked out for life", I have no such sins in my past. I did do things like drop golf balls off the Skyway and throw pennies from Big Thunder at people waiting on the bridge on the Trail, but who hasn't done so? Once, while spitting off the Skyway, I happened to spit on one of my siblings (not tenesmus), but didn't intend to or know I had done so. Such glorious times. I did get a written reprimand in 1994 for "being too helpful", if that counts.
Originally Posted By iamgoofy I have read a book by Billy Graham and it contains a list i agree with on justifiable reasons for divorce.
Originally Posted By monorailblue Speaking of getting kicked out, I'll tell a story and ask for opinions. I'm working Autopia. Some guests do a 180 on their way off the Attraction, and come back and tell me they left their video camera in their car. The car has already departed, so I tell them to wait, and we'll watch for the car when it comes in. It comes in. There are two school-group kids riding/driving, from a group from a foreign country. It appears they picked up the camera and put it under a jacket. I ask them, and they hand it over, stating they "found" it in the car. The guy gets his camera, and is enraged. He demands security be called. Security comes out, but cannot communicate with the kids, so I translate. After nearly 40 minutes, they find a chaperone. The "victim" has long since gone. The kids have about 1 hour to go before their tour group leaves (per chaperone). The security guard, who did not see any of the goings on, tells the kids that they will have to leave the park immediatley, and that they will be reported to Anaheim PD and to Immigration so that they can never visit the U.S. again. Say what? Yes--that's what he said. I was shocked and dismayed. As nearly as I can tell, the most that happened is the kids might have carried the camera off if left to do so. But they didn't do so, and, indeed, had no chance to do so. It is an immigration crime to pick up something lost by someone else? They didn't even get up from the car before the camera was returned to its owner, with no harm done. What do you all think? (Assume, of course, that I've given a faithful rendering of the facts, since there is no one else to tell another side of the story.)
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Congratulations on your successful marriage, monorailblue. Your post came off a bit self-rightious. <So I do know a bit about marriage and family, I guess.> Yes. You're married, and it works. Good for you. Anybody who's taken 'the walk down the aisle' also knows a bit about marriage. Prior to me wife now, I was married once before. Thought I was marrying for life. Woman I married turned out to be a miserable person. Yes, I should have figured that out ahead of time, but I didn't. Stuck it out for 6 years. Went to marriage counseling. She didn't want to stay married. So I got out. Does that make me weak? or someone who doesn't try hard enough? I don't think so. My point is that most of the time, people want to get married, and stay married. People don't 'want' to get divorced. I'm in a happy marriage now, and am thrilled. But I don't look down my nose at others if they get divorced. Because I know what it's like to be in a crappy marriage. You don't.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle I know it's not what the thread's about, but I have to chime in and agree with Jim here. Not every marriage is worth saving, or able to be saved. I've never been married and I *hope* that when I get married it will be for life, but if he was to start abusing me, or cheated on me, or anything like that, I'd be out of there. It's not that I don't have "good old-fashioned values" (and my parents, who have been married for over 35 years, have the happiest marriage I've ever seen), but there really are some marriages that just aren't worth being in. End Rant.
Originally Posted By tenesmus Monorail, I guess I was probably attributing the hijinx of several of my siblings to you such as dancing with small world dolls, exiting car on journey through inner space, spitting on plexiglass at ballroom scene on haunted mansion, reaching out and knocking loudly on other peoples cars on haunted mansion, throwing gum at yeti on matterhorn, stopping boats with hands on small world and pirates, along with the items you mentioned, I figured that the aggregregate crimes would warrant a lifetime ban if all could be traced back to one person, but with so many siblings there was bound to be some youthful mischeif in the bunch.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper An aquaintance of mine is on her 5th husband. Not sure if she gets what marriage should be about. In any event, I have an "almost" kicked out story from a different park that still irks me to this day. Back in my great early 20s a group of us went to a popular midwest amusement park. We were a combo of guys and gals, all friends. We rode the park's log ride and one of the females in our group, who was wearing a white shirt sans-bra got absolutely drenched. (We didn't expect that amound of water on a log flume.) So, needless to say, she was getting attention she didn't want. (And, for good reason as I fondly recall.) So, being the gentleman that I am, I took off my own shirt and gave it to her so she could be discreet until she dried out or we got her another shirt. Shortly thereafter I was approached by park security who demanded that I put on a shirt while walking through the park. I calmly explained the situation, which he took no sympathy in. He told us her only option was to buy a souvenir shirt or she would have to leave the park. I wasn't thrilled but I told the officer we would head to the nearest gift shop and get her a shirt. But, he still insisted that she remove my shirt and walk "exposed" to the gift shop. By this point I'm pretty mad and had some more words with him to the point he called for "back up" and threatened to throw me out. I should have demanded to speak to someone in management but I didn't want to derail the entire day so we took our marching orders and got her the cheapest shirt we could find...in a hurry.
Originally Posted By monorailblue <<But I don't look down my nose at others if they get divorced.>> I don't either. I was suggesting that there is much more to marital dissolution than "everyone should get out of an unhealthy marriage." Many marriages grow unhealthy because they are neglected--starved by the spouses. Obviously, that isn't a truism applicable to all. But it is a true statement.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA ^^^There's just more gray area involved in a marriage, including the tiresome adage 'let's stay in it for the sake of the kids.' I know some marriages where the spouses should have said 'Let's split for the sake of the kids.'
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<What do you all think?>> I personally would give the girls the benefit of the doubt. Putting the camera under the jacket doesn't necessarily mean they were attempting to conceal it; maybe they thought it would pad and protect it until they got out of the car. Autopia isn't exactly a smooth ride after all, especially if you constantly steer against the rail, or mash down and let go of the accelorator pedal and jerk the car.
Originally Posted By NJ AP ^^ Had the upset guest stayed to fight his own fight, I'd perhaps have a different take. Since they were the ones wronged, and thy chose to drop the fight, there is no fight. The item was returned, the kids had no chance to escape. Even if the kids chose to live by the adage "finders keepers, losers weepers," no crime was committed against Disney or Anaheim (the only parties present at that point). I guess it is akin to finding a shoplifter with merchandise in their pockets before they leave the store -- has a crime been committed yet? Can intent be proved if they are still in the store? <<BTW, not picking on trekkerus, just couldn't remember monorailblue's original post #>>
Originally Posted By monorailblue Jim, I agree with your #72. As to the story I related, I have also wondered how it might have been different had the kids been with a different group. I never did address the famed tenesmus's other accusations as to my 'colorful' Disney past: <<dancing with small world dolls>> I have never done this. I have moved from boat to boat mid-ride, but I have not run around the sets. Other siblings have (that would particularly be #4 and #6). <<exiting car on journey through inner space>> I was not yet 10 when this closed, and never did this. <<spitting on plexiglass at ballroom scene on haunted mansion>> I don't think I have done this. I have tossed various articles on the ground, maybe in a corner, wondering how many more times I might find them again, but I was not an indoor spitter. <<reaching out and knocking loudly on other peoples cars on haunted mansion>> This is almost as fun as blowing a Mighty Ducks duck call throughout the Attraction. Guilty as charged, but not a life-time-ban offense. <<throwing gum at yeti on matterhorn>> I've never been a gum chewer. What we would do is pull the prickly things off the trees in the queue and try to get those to stick to the fur. Then, of course, see how many more times we could ride through and see them stuck there. <<stopping boats with hands on small world>> Guilty. <<and pirates>> Mostly not-do-able. Have not done this. <<I figured that the aggregregate crimes would warrant a lifetime ban if all could be traced back to one person>> No way. I would never do anything that would amount to that punishment. The thing I did that I have had the most remorse for was picking up some lost and found and keeping it. I won't elaborate, and it was at least 17 years ago, but I have always remembered it as an inspiration not to do that ever again.
Originally Posted By tenesmus Speaking of lost and found: Once, while riding monorail, I managed to see a souvenier hat that had blown off of some childs head and was at the side of the tracks, I was able to grab it as we went by, and handed it to a cast member when we got off who, thanked me, then promptly threw it in the trash. I'm not sure how much actually makes it to the lost and found. Monorail, you're not sib number 4 or 6??? What was I thinking?
Originally Posted By threeundertwo >>But, he still insisted that she remove my shirt and walk "exposed" to the gift shop.>> Sounds like a nightmare I've had. Eeeeek!
Originally Posted By Wild about Disney Well since everyone is being so honest I will spill my shameful experiance at Disneyland.....takes deep breath.....Father forgive me for I have sinned.... Back in the 70's The Snow White ride had a part in it where the witch would turn towards your ride car holding an apple dangling on piece of fishline.....Well you guessed it, I reached out from the ride car & grabbed the flourscent red plastic apple that was hanging from the witch's hand & shoved it in my coat pocket. I had that apple in my room for years as sort of a trophy.....They have since replaced that part of the ride with a halagraph <--sorry never could spell--anyway it's not a plastic apple anymore. Whew glad to get that off my chest....been carrying around that dark dirty secret for years..... I do regret having vandalized my beloved park & will now pay humble restitution....I have been banished to the Great Northwest & no longer can go to Disneyland on a weekly basis like I used to. No, they didn't kick me out of the state, I moved!
Originally Posted By Elderp ^ I have seen plenty of apples stolen from Snow White. I wonder how many they have to replace. Never done it myself though.
Originally Posted By tynkrbell1977 One of my friends was a CM at DL and she worked on the SW ride. LOL She used to tell me so many stories of the apple getting taken!
