Originally Posted By englishboy I don't mean to sound jaded here, but this is actually the plotline of Final Destination 3, a film that opens today. The lapbars fail on a coaster leading to many deaths. Check it out on movies.yahoo.com The similarities are surprising.
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Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<As a stockholder, every year I vote against the board in order to implement improved ride safety checks and procedures.>> vbdad... that's not you, is it??? ;-)
Originally Posted By Roger55 <<Prefacing, despite the fact that we had to post under a new ID, does not in any way mean to compromise our integrity or sincerity. It was done for good reasons.>> And the good reason is what??? <<This being very emotional, I failed at onset to simply come right out and ask for specific help initially, which resulted in an onslaught of misunderstandings and our being bombarded with insults...>> Again, what help are you asking for from this community??? You said you don't have the time to read and respond to every post, but you conviniently and repeatedly fail to respond to these KEY questions. I thank you for the "heads up" about EE, and I also have sympathy for your husband and daughter's suffering, but your attitude and evasiveness are the reasons why you are not being taken seriously here. Also, your reasoning does not make much sense. I totally understand why some here are responding to this topic the way they are. Help us, and help yourself by addressing the questions. Leaving out the attitude will also help gain more support.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney Something here still smells funky to me. If this had happened to me or I had witnessed it, I wouldn't be seeking redress on a Disney fan site's discussion board. I also would be posting with my original name and I wouldn't be attacking folks for being skeptical, especially with all the trolls roaming about. The only reason I now believe the incident took place is because Jim said he confirmed it with the Sentinel's Disney/tourism writer. But I don't understand what you expect from the folks here ... and I'm trying. I am NO Disney apologist. About as far on the other end as possible. I would have demanded medical care there. If it was denied,I would have simply picked up the nearest phone and dialed 911. If I felt Disney was negligent, I would have contacted an attorney. If I felt that it was something that needed attention I would have contacted Dr. Beth Stevens, the VP of DAK. Or Lee Cockerell or Erin Wallace, Sr. VP of WDW Ops. I wouldn't have let it go with a chat with a Guest Relations CM. You came in here with a new screenname, if you are telling the truth about being a longtime forum member, and immediately took on a very hostile tone toward everyone. Unless Scott from the Sentinel chooses to chime in again, he and/or his editors felt there wasn't a story there, so I have to wonder what kind of tone you took with him. I just have a lot of questions and, frankly, you aren't very forthcoming with answers using time as an excuse, but you have plenty of time to rip the good people here. You certainly have to realize this group never agrees on anything and yet I don't see anyone rushing to your defense. It's all in the 'tude.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss All this discussion has done is make me want to ride EE with the lap bar up. WOOHOOOOOO!!!
Originally Posted By mele <<<<As a stockholder, every year I vote against the board in order to implement improved ride safety checks and procedures.>>>> So, every year the board votes to decrease ride safety checks and procedures?
Originally Posted By bloona Could I ask what your user name is usually please? Very curious. englishboy, that film looks horrid, I arent going to see it, it would totally freak me out. Where in the UK are you from btw, Im from Yorkshire.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> this is not a ride considered by even Disney to have safety features. << I can't let you say a sentence like that in print without challenging it. Maybe somebody said something to you that you thought sounded like "this is not a ride considered to have safety features." But it simply is not true. Safety features abound on EVERY attraction. And they are VERY well thought out, planned, and engineered. This attraction has simple lap bars because it is designed not to need anything more agressive. The ride itself will keep you in the seat. The so-called airtime on the main frontside drop may not be real airtime. The lapbars are mostly to keep the rider from standing up when they are not supposed to. They're not there to hold you down.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Sometimes it's all to easy to jump to a wrong conclusion about others. (My sisters and I have been guilty of this, ourselves, so that makes us all the more cautious not to do so again.) Hopefully some important lessons have been learned here as a result of all this discussion. For those who have had the courage to admit when they were wrong, Bravo!! ORGOCH: Fer those of ya still actin' like ya know more than ya really does, better watch out! Pay-back's a witch! Wouldn't want all that bad Kharma comin' MY way... ORWEN: Good luck, Guineapig, duckling. Thank you for sharing your experience, despite all you've gone through here.
Originally Posted By trailsend Well, two things for me. I just figured out what OP meant; someone, after 160 posts said "original poster" and I went "Oh". The other thing is a good one. This thread has me AGREEING with LuvDatDisney! Luv's Post 185 is exactly what I was thinking, then I read down to it, and that's my thinking exactly. Something is not quite right.
Originally Posted By trailsend Well, 3 things. I agree with trekkeruss that whomever guineapig is, if they have been around LP for 5 years, they would NEVER have to change their screenname. Many topics and almost every kind of subject whether silly or totally personal with LP'ers spilling out their hearts and hurts have been posted here. I've only been here 8 months and I have seen the response from LP'ers. This is a caring community; even with the fights in WE, each LP'er KNOWS the other LP'er, has huge differences of opinion but the posters are truthful about who they are. (And rarely when not, it's very obvious) I honestly feel, if you had approached this from your "known" name, the response would have been entirely different. Everyone would have given you advice, helped you talk it out, and understood what you have been through. These LP'ers have great ideas and advice as to what to do. My thinking is the fact you couldn't reveal who you really are is the first red flag.
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire <<Could I ask what your user name is usually please? Very curious>> WDWtechie JK!!!! Thats the impression I got at first, but now I dont think so. He has just mysteriously disappeared and this person appeared...sooo...I came to that conclusion earlier but now, oh well! I think that if somebody was "seriously injured" on EE, the media would be all over it...but not newsworthy makes me think then the details may have been played out a bit.
Originally Posted By leemac Man, I miss all the fun. What on earth has been going on?!?! I'm totally confused as to where we are with this story. Anyone fancy distil the info into one succinct post for me? Lee
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<As a stockholder, every year I vote against the board in order to implement improved ride safety checks and procedures.>> vbdad... that's not you, is it??? ;-) < Nope, I voted against the Playground --LOL !!!
Originally Posted By CTXRover Read through most of the posts and sorry to say but I must side with those that don't believe the OP. The post with Disney's "supposed" response to this matter is what cinched my disbelief in the whole story. If there was any truth to this, Disney would or should not be talking with you about details of the safety of the ride in person because of the probable lawsuit someone would have if any of this was true. I also do not believe for one second that a Disney representative would even insinuate that there are not redudant safety features on this ride or claim that the safety bars are not there for your safety....there is a reason for a height requirement afterall. Even if that was Disney's real defense against an accusation like this, I honestly believe they would NOT be discussing it with you in the manner you claim. From a safety standpoint, EE is filled with safety features. For instance, in order for the trains to move at the track switches, computers check and then recheck and probably check again before the train is ever released from it holding position. There are also multiple brake zones throughout the attraction to stop the trains at multiple portions along the track if something would go wrong. Also, if this was true AND there was ANY proof that it actually happened as the OP originally claims, EE would be shut down for at least some time afterwards (even if just for the rest of the day) while they checked into it.
Originally Posted By CTXRover <<have pictures just so happens as my other daughter and I were photographing outside at the bottom of the drop. >> I'd love to see these "photos" you claim. Unless they were sitting in the front seat or you were taking rapid shots of every section of the train with a high zoom camera on a tripod, I find it very hard to believe you could grab a photo that would even show something like this. The speed at which the trains come down the mountain, coupled with the high head rests and the length of the train, I would think it would be very hard to get a picture of just your husband and daughter with a good vantage point of their lap bars. I guess anything is possible, but it all sounds VERY fishy to me. Sorry, provide some actual proof and then maybe I'll believe this. Its a pretty serious claim and I'd like to believe you, but you are making it hard to do so. You should be ashamed if this turns out to all be a joke. If its not, I apologize.
Originally Posted By CTXRover I should add that I finished reading through the rest of the posts and I missed the post from Scott Powers at the Orlando Sentinel my first time through this thread. That post, and that post alone, does make me question my own assumption that the OP's claims were less then truthful. It still seems fishy to me though. Again, if any of this is true, please accept my apologies guineapig. But for now, I'm still a skeptic.
Originally Posted By CTXRover Thanks trailsend. My post above was simply to mention that I had just read that post myself, but it is an important post for anybody else like me who are reading this thread for the first time to read. Still, all Mr. Powers seemed to confirm was that Disney admits such a claim was made, that there is a family out there that has made these claims and that he felt there was no story to write about here. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered, but I do feel bad jumping down the OP's throat earlier.
