Originally Posted By danyoung >This is a serious question..if you had yanked hard on the lapbar would it have popped up before the ride began?< All I can say is that the CM gave it his usual tug and the bar seemed secure, both to him and to me (I had no desire to have my security restraint fly open!). The scary thing for me was that I of course grabbed the bar as it flew up and slammed it back down, getting it much tighter than I'd planned and triggering a pretty awful claustrophobic attack for the rest of the attraction. Not fun!
Originally Posted By Kimrue omg,that is seriously my biggest fear!!! What part of the ride did this happen? Holy cow, I would've had a heart attack.
Originally Posted By danyoung It was fairly early on, like right after the lift and the first big turn, as I remember. Seems like it was right around the same area both times. Spooky!
Originally Posted By brotherdave As I said in my original post, lap bar failures can and do occur, as I had experienced it myself once at Cedar Point. But, I would say that it was hardly newsworthy. Unless someone were to be thrown from the ride or a serious injury incurred, it would never make the media. Nor should it. My guess is that the rider may have been 'shaken' from his experience at the time, but, since he wasn't visibly hurt and was able to walk off the ride on his own accord, the cast members who were there may have just dismissed the incident, rightfully or not. Later on, after the incident occurred, I'm betting that the rider began to notice the pain from what may have happened. It's possible then the OP and husband may have felt that more needed to be done. In a separate occurance at a different park last summer, I fell while trying to exit from a log flume boat. I didn't fall hard, and immediately got up. It was more embarrasing to me than anything else. The ride operator came over to assist me, but, I was already standing. He questioned me if I was ok, which I was. I then continued to enjoy the park. The next morning, though, I discovered that I had bruised my ribs on my left side. I didn't notice the pain until the next morning, which can happen with some injuries. I was sore for a few days, but nothing more and I didn't need medical attention for it. I never even thought of contacting the park on the incident, even though my ribs were hurting enough later on to possibly get them x-rayed. After a week or so, the pain subsided and eventually dissappeared. I just brought this up because I'm wondering if the husband noticed pain immediately, or did it start to appear later on? If it came later on, maybe this is why Disney management was a little less receptive to it.
Originally Posted By AuroraRose this is sorta off topic, if there arent sensors on rides, how do they know when people are trying to get off: ie the haunted mansion?
Originally Posted By danyoung It's this cool new technology called video cameras! And the HM doombuggies may actually have sensors for all I know, as there's an electronic connection with the rest of the attraction. A roller coaster by its nature is somewhat freerolling, and hence is not wired into a security system. The sensors in the tracks do all of the safety stuff for them, but I doubt that there's anything to sense the lapbars beyond the sharp eyes of the load/unload crew.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros There are sensors in the trains. The trains either send out the info that they have, or it gets read when it passes over special sensors. So really, the train is constantly communicating with the main computer running the ride. If anything goes wrong, it should detect it, and the ride would E-stop.
Originally Posted By danyoung Interesting. What's your source for this info? How extensive are these sensors?
Originally Posted By paulyahoo << And the HM doombuggies may actually have sensors for all I know >> AFAIK, they have sensors on the floor, not in doombuggies.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal Is it possible that FerretAfros is talking about the zone sensors which ensure that there is only one vehicle in a zone at a time? As far as I know there are no sensors in the trains themselves to indicate a lap bar opening. I know that even a hat falling on the track in the right place can trip the zone sensors and cause an attraction to stop because the sensors think there is more than one vehicle in a zone. And yes, I know that computers don't "think." I always get laughed at by tech support when I say things like that... "My computer thinks I'm trying to log off, but I'm not!"
Originally Posted By Kimrue You would think of any problem that could happen on a roller coaster, something like a lapbar flying up would be something that would be sensored!!(does that sentence make sense?) I've mentioned it before, but what if this happened on something like ToT (I know this no longer has lapbars but seatbelt unbuckling etc.) or RRC??? I mean, this could/would be fatal! To treat it like "no big deal" because somebody wasn't seriously injured seems careless to me. Too many "what if's" to count why this is not only newsworthy, but also cause for a ride to be shut down for a day! Maybe it's just me but I don't care if I stood in line for an hour, if a cm came out and told me that I couldn't go on space mountain because a lapbar unlatched and it needed to be investigated, I would not only NOT be upset, I would THANK them for taking care of it and putting the safety and comfort of the guests ahead of everything else! This seems so unusual to me that this is seen as not a big deal and an ordinary occurance...guests throwing up on M:S is newsworthy, yet lapbars becoming unlatched is brushed under the carpet and never mentioned or taken care of.
Originally Posted By typhoonCM Kim there's a big difference between the seat belts on TOT and the lapbars on most coasters. Most non-inverted and even some inverted coasters merely have lapbars to keep people from getting out on their own and to make them FEEL safe. They're not meant to keep people from being ejected from the ride due to positive or negative g forces. And as far as TOT, there ARE seatbelt sensors on the right hand side of the vehicle. Many motion rides (such as star tours) have them because they create 'popping' motions that can 'pop' (eject) you from your seat. Everest has no such motion, but rather short but sustained positive and negative G forces.
Originally Posted By paulyahoo << Is it possible that FerretAfros is talking about the zone sensors which ensure that there is only one vehicle in a zone at a time? >> The best example is Space Mountain in Paris where they have a lot of sensors throughout the whole track and music on trains is controlled by optical switches also located on the track. But this coaster has several inversions.
Originally Posted By AuroraRose <<<It's this cool new technology called video cameras!>>> DUH!!! Definite blond moment in such a high tech world, i suppose i overlooked the obvious : )
Originally Posted By danyoung ^^ But then someone posted that there are no security cameras in the HM, which I find hard to believe. So I guess my snarky comment might have been premature . . .
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m <<Actually, the OP never asked for help, she claimed to write only to warn others. My question is, why did she feel the need to hide her identity if, and I quote, "I have been a member of this community for at least 5 years so I am not a "troll" making a first post; this ID was for this posted topic alone." Does anyone here think she would have gotten her head bitten off, so-to-speak, for reporting such an experience? IMO, I would think the vast majority here would rush in to say, "Oh, I am so sorry that happened to you... I can imagine how frightening that must have been for your husband and child!">> Maybe she knew she would be attacked the way she was? BTW, i'm not the mystery poster....I have no daughters. But I can't believe you guys would attack someone the way you have.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m <<Okay, just for the record I am not a guinea pig, I am a dog. I've been trying to figure out who this might be. Not: Kimrue Labuda tm0m Fe Witches So what female has been posting here for a while that we're missing? Could it be someone from the West Coast?>> That's funny beamerdog, as soon as I posted that people were being mean, i was afraid they would think it was me. Thanks for clearing that up! BTW, I'm thinking the original poster didn't post pictures because that would give away their identity (if Other LPers have met her DH)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I've been trying to figure out who this might be.>> I'm still convinced that the person has NOT posted at LP before and is in fact a troll.
