Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Of course we all know you, SuzieQ, duckling, and no one is going to question your credibility. After reading some of the reactions to the original poster, my sisters and I must say we're disappointed in some of the things that have been said. Until we know for absolute certainty that this entire story was made up, it would seem a better idea to merely--as some have already done--request pictures as proof--but not to utter anything that might unnecessarily hurt the feelings of guineapig--just in case she WAS telling the truth. ORWEN: Wouldn't you all feel just terrible if you found out--later on--that she wasn't really making up her story? I mean, it's okay to ask for proof. But way you go about asking for it can really hurt if it's not done with more care. Calling someone a troll before you're sure they really are one--that's risky.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Until we know for absolute certainty that this entire story was made up> I'm absolutely certain. That's good enough for me.
Originally Posted By Skully Actually I have heard of e-stops occuring because of a delatched lapbar. Was I just told ******** by a ride op or is that true?
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire How could pictures been taken? Oh well, sounds like a "techie" to me!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>You just described me, except that I am big<< That's not what we've heard... >>Is there a corckscrew in EE?<< No Kimrue, there are no corkscrews of loops in EE. If a coaster doesn't come equipped with 'over the shoulder' harnesses, you pretty much know it won't turn you upside down.. Trust me.. EE ius about the tamest big coaster you will ever ride. Just a bit more intense than Big Thunder...
Originally Posted By brotherdave I once had my lap bar pop open on the Mean Streak at Cedar Point. It's a very large wooden coaster and my lap bar came open at the bottom of the first drop (which is about 165 feet tall). As wahoo skipper will attest (he used to work there), the ride is rather bumpy and throws you around quite a bit. And although I've never rode EE, I would expect that Mean Streak throws you around quite a bit more than EE. Was I alarmed? Yes. But, instinctively, I held the lap bar down. MS is equipped with seat belts, so, I really wasn't too worried about being thrown out of the train. But, even without a seat belt, the design of the seat (which is well padded) would essentially prevent me from flying out of the train, especially while holding on. When the train returned to the station, I reported what happened to the ride attendant. She immediately asked if I was injured (which I wasn't) and the immediately 'roped-off' that seat from use. I'm not sure what else they may have done about the incident, but, since no one else on the train had a problem, roping off the seat was probably all that was necessary. I'm sure that an incident report was possibly filed for maintenance to look at the bar. As for the possibility of EE having this problem, yes, I'm sure that it possibly could. I really don't know what type of lateral forces are on the ride, but, judging by the video, I would have to guess they are minimal due to the design and layout of the track. But, again, this is only speculative since I've not ridden EE yet, if one were to hold on to lap bar (or a stationary bar if the cars have one). I would imagine that, although it may have added an extra 'thrill' to the ride (a very scary one, I might add), I can't see how an injury of this nature would occur. Of course, if it did happen, we don't have all the details either. There have been other incidents at other parks where lap bars have failed and more serious injuries, even death, have resulted. (Superman: Ride of Steel at Six Flags New England comes to mind where a rider was thrown to his death due to a lap bar failure.) But, this kind of event is very rare, thankfully!
Originally Posted By Friar Tuck and Roll I too have had a lap bar come up on ride for me. It was on the Racer at Paramount's King's Island. It was especially unnerving to me due to the fact that the coaster was operating in reverse. But just like brotherdave I knew to grab on to the bar and also hold on to side of the car. Plus, like what was mentioned in a much earlier post the seat itself was suffient to hold me in place. While scary, I didn't feel the need to report it, both because I was not injured and I was only in junior high at the time and was more interested in getting the next thrill then worrying about a minor incident.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> on the flume ride at Camp Snoopy in the Mall of America. << Speaking of which -- I heard the other day that Camp Snoopy at MOA was actually CLOSING! Are you kidding? No WAY! I figured. Turns out to be partially true. I looked it up on the web and apparently they're losing the Snoopy connection. All things Snoopy and Peanuts are going away. But the park will remain open as the "Park at MOA?" For how much longer?.....
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> it looks to me like there are sufficient places to hold onto that would prevent a rider from sustaining back and neck injuries. << Not that I believe this incident -- I'm a CM and have some inside connections. I suspect we would have heard if something like this happened. It didn't. But thinking about it some -- Even if G forces would normally hold you into your seat in a case like this -- If a safety bar were to come loose on a moving train, and they really didn't know about G-forces and thought they were about to be ejected/injured from the car, I suspect they could cause damage to themselves in a scramble to hold onto something. Yes? No?
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> gunieapig are able to post the pictures or are you not able to? << I suspect a conspiracy here. The only way a single lapbar coming loose could do so much damage is if it were a "magic lapbar."
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> When the train returned to the station, I reported what happened to the ride attendant. She immediately asked if I was injured (which I wasn't) and the immediately 'roped-off' that seat from use. << This is really great. And the ride attendant probably thought they were doing a great job, too. Can you imagine getting on a plane and seeing a sign on a seat that says "Please don't sit here -- I'm defective?" Seeing a sign or rope on a seat on a coaster train would have me seriously thinking about the safety of the whole ride.
Originally Posted By movieguy Years ago...I'm getting old....my shoulder harness wasn't secure on a coaster at Bush Gardens in Virginia. I screamed at the attendent as we left the station and my friends just laughed at me. I held on for dear life and ended up laughing hysterically throughout the ride. What fun!
Originally Posted By Kimrue It sounds like lap bars coming up is semi common...Now if GP is lying, why would someone make up a story like this?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 < All things Snoopy and Peanuts are going away. But the park will remain open as the "Park at MOA?" For how much longer?..... < And in the hometown area of Charles Schulz - how sad is that.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> And in the hometown area of Charles Schulz - how sad is that. << Agreed. But it appears to be "Surprise!" a money issue. >> "As a result of a licensing dispute between the mall and United Media, which controls the rights to the Peanuts brand, Camp Snoopy was to be erased from the Twin Cities' retail and entertainment landscape Wednesday." << ---------------------- For those of you with a mind to such things -- there was a great article in The Onion back in June of 2005 that predicted the closure of "Camp Snoopy," along with the other big round of military base closures in 2005. Check it out at -- <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.theonion.com/content/node/31031&e=9797" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/url?sa=U &start=1&q=http://www.theonion.com/content/node/31031&e=9797</a>
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I once had the strap come off when I was driving the Autopia. The car flipped over and I died.
