Originally Posted By kpwdwfan Do you or anyone else have any idea why all those people were able to use the fast pass line during EMH. One person had some type of 3x5 idex card he showed. I would have thought it was for people who needed special assistance but that didn't seem to be the case. It's interesting how guests experiences vary from day to day. I was pleasantly surprised to see how the line for Space Mountain moved during EMH, and how you had a completely different experience. Unfortunately that was the only good experience we had during EMH at any park.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Dan, make your way to the Chicago area and the three of us can work this out and send the solution to the Disney braintrust< Ummm, did I mention martini's at some point today? It's late (for me!), and I ain't got much to contribute. Can we continue this tomorrow, when I'm at work getting paid to while away the day (quiet time of year and all) ? Loving youse guys!!!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<on the surface I agree that it appears bad, unfortunately I donot have enough knowledge of most of these people to really get on a bender... and I don't like piling on when I have little to add.>> Pile on. It'll feel good to rip Disney management. I sleep better at night knowing I've done my Disney duty ;-) But like I said to Dan, the Al Lutz column is pretty accurate about the hirings. He also is likely right that DL is in a bit better position because at least Ed has had parks experience. Meg is a complete neophyte ... a desk jockey. And I've never seen those type of lifers adjust well to a completely different environment. <<I can tell you in my management career of 30 years, some of the best managers were not the best techinicians of what they managed...and one can be extremely successful managing an area on pure management skills than the halo effect of knowing 'all the right things' -->> I agree. But when you're placed in a position in order to be a complete puppet of the division head ... well, it doesn't matter how well a manager you are. <<that being said, we are more passionate about our parks than most things, and I do believe it takes at least a fair level of hands on park experience to understand what the customer wants.....and it appears someof these promotions do not cover that, so am I worried-- yes. Do I know enough to wail on either person...I wish i did, but I do not possess that knowledge. make sense ?>> Perfectly ... and unlike Danny, I haven't been drinking. But when I finish wasting time here and getting some last minute things done here, I may well have rum ... with a spoonful of Coke in it! Maybe I'll make a toast to the 'health' of some of my Disney 'pals.'
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <It's interesting how guests experiences vary from day to day. I was pleasantly surprised to see how the line for Space Mountain moved during EMH, and how you had a completely different experience.< it is-- that and Peter Pan were the only rides that night that were awful-- the rest were all fairly good, and by 1:00 AM Buzz was a walk right on....
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I agree. But when you're placed in a position in order to be a complete puppet of the division head ... well, it doesn't matter how well a manager you are. < this would be true <Maybe I'll make a toast to the 'health' of some of my Disney 'pals.' < raising glass here also !
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Judging by the amount of words you have written today, VBDAD, you should have a couple. Seriously, I can't believe how much you and Mike and Dan have posted on FP ... I can't even read them all. My head spins.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Judging by the amount of words you have written today, VBDAD, you should have a couple. Seriously, I can't believe how much you and Mike and Dan have posted on FP ... I can't even read them all. My head spins.< had a vacation day today and after a round of golf with my kids...got hooked into this...( I need a hobby )
Originally Posted By vbdad55 also it's nice to have a debate with people who don't feel the need to lash out if someone says something they don't agree with...this has been good
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I would have joined in, but I don't feel strongly one way or the other (I know, with me a surprise). I liked it when it started. Then, like everything with TWDC, they overdid it. I remember when they added it to Maelstrom and Honey, I Shrunk the Audience because Epcot's VP was upset his park only had it on one attraction (TT). It wouldn't bother me to see it go away. I spent a quarter of a century visiting Disney parks without and did just fine. If it continues, that's fine too. I just wish they'd use it smarter, much like they are doing at DL. Every attraction doesn't need it. And even those big E-Tickets don't need it on every day.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "True. But FP is being slowly taken out of DL. And you'll see it disappear at WDW on attractions it had no business being on to start. DLP has it on very few attractions, I think I used it on Space Mountain and Peter Pan only." DLP had a lot of fast pass for a while. Now it is only available for Big Thunder, Indy, Peter Pan, Space Mountain and Buzz. RNR Coaster has it if the Studios are ever busy. On a few signature attractions, it seems to work well.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>The silence you hear from certain Disney management apologists here speaks volumes.<<< I'm certainly no an apologist, but I have been quiet because my own business has kept me busy lately, and I don't know enough about these characters (except Rasulo) so I am watching to see what happens.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>But after seeing the amazing, expensive, detailed costumes at DLP, the MK ones just look like mall-wear<<< Funny, I noticed the cheapening and dumbing down of costumes in DLP over the years. No wonder we felt the MK sucked in 2000. Thank god there were aa number of AA heavy attractions we don't have inParis, otherwise we would have hardly stayed in that park. Still love Epcot and DAK though!
Originally Posted By danyoung >Seriously, I can't believe how much you and Mike and Dan have posted on FP ... I can't even read them all. My head spins.< It's cracked me up in the past to see a 17 paragraph diatribe from ChiMike, and now here I am matching him paragraph for paragraph! We'll see if the discussion is as lively today.
Originally Posted By Disneybrad "One person had some type of 3x5 idex card he showed. I would have thought it was for people who needed special assistance but that didn't seem to be the case." That 3x5 card is a Guest Assistance Pass
