Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>If the coaster has enough show scenes, maybe it'll be a E Tic..?<< Well...I looked over some of the more recent plans and from what I see, the only scenes labled are the "Dwarf's Cottage" and "Mine Scene". However, I do see that along the attractions northeast-ish border, across from Mermaid, they are putting in a "Fruit and Nut Cart" a "Merchandise Cart" and, of course, a "DVC Cart". I figure if you count the carts as show scenes....maybe it is an E...or not. (Also, for what it's worth, the layout appears to have been modified from it's original plan.)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Well...I looked over some of the more recent plans and from what I see, the only scenes labled are the "Dwarf's Cottage" and "Mine Scene".<<<< Fan-freaking-tastic. No witch? No chase through the forrest? No queen/witch transformation? No dwarf cottage scene? ....This does not bode well, in what is needed in a SW ride, IMO.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I've never been to a DVC resort, but can anyone answer this question for me? For the DVC resorts that aren't at WDW (like Vero Beach or Myrtle Beach or Oahu or wherever), are the characters prominently featured (like when you walk around the property are there signs with Mickey's and Goofy's faces?) or are the DVC resorts more like other upscale hotels that go for understated elegance? Or is it a little of both? ---------------- Leo - we go to Vero every year after WDW and I can tell you characters are little part of the resorts. Vero focuses on the beach - beach activities and the pool and pool activites as a seaside resort should. There are no characters walking around except one night there is a Donald / Goofy pirate themed dinner in Shutters ( one of the 2 sit down restaurants there)- there are subtle hints like the hand on the elevator floors is Mickey's white glove... some of the kids activities during the day include paiting a Mickey cell etc.. but characters and such as virtually non existent. At Vero they focus on the sea turtles heavily and wildlife refuges nearby. I can;t speak for Hilton Head as I 've never stayed there
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself ^Eh...I think it bodes fine. It isn't meant to tell the SW story, it's an adventure through the mine and surrounding forest area. Works for me, I don't need to be told the same story again. Yawn.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper << Fan-freaking-tastic. No witch? No chase through the forrest? No queen/witch transformation? No dwarf cottage scene? ....This does not bode well, in what is needed in a SW ride, IMO. >> EE...we've known all this stuff wasn't going to be there from the beginning. It's not retelling the story. *shrug*
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>^ Any word if they've been able to find a solution to the car problems?<< Haven't heard any details. All I've been told is that it is more of a design headache than something that puts the attraction in jeopardy.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""we've known all this stuff wasn't going to be there from the beginning. It's not retelling the story."" Those scenes were in the original 1.0 of BOTH U.S. versions and those versions were hardly telling the story either. But that was never the point. The lack if any of these dramatic scenes means a Fantasyland completly devoid of any subversive, dark, scary elements and turned into a happy happy joy joy Family Guy "wonderful day for pie" spoof. VERY CLEARLY not what Walt or even the 2nd generation W.E.D intended.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Well, the fact that they AREN'T telling the Snow White story in this new Dwarf coaster ride is exactly why I'd rather they left the Snow White Dark Ride alone. A Kiddie coaster through a dark mine train will be even MORE boring than the dark ride! I don't need to ride THAT over and over again. That's what's really going to be boring. Nothing worth seeing??? That's an even BIGGER reason to YAWN!!!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Exactly. Without these scenes, there's nothing really that distinguishes this as just being a SW themed experience or the actual events taking place. If it's the former... I feel that it's a wrong fit for Fantasyland, where these stories are SUPPOSED to be told. Experiences, like BTMR and Space are much less story driven, and fit the other lands. If anything, Fantasyland is the place for these stories to be told over and over. I dunno. Too early to pass judgement. Hope that there's more to SWSA II than it seems.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer My exactly was for post 48, but the Witches bring up a great point, too.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Coaster > Crappy dark ride I really don't care about the stories being re-told. I just want a good ride. Mermaid seems to be a good ride. This ride seems like it will be a good ride. Snow White Scary Adventures is not a good ride.
Originally Posted By WDWVacationer I agree with HokieSkipper. And I don't belive anyone ever said the Mine Ride would tell the Snow White story. It is simply and adventure through the Dwarves' Mine and it seems like it will be a good ride. It p[asses.
Originally Posted By leobloom Thanks for the answer, Vbdad. Still don't think I'd want to stay with Mickey in Hawaii, but I have a better idea what the resort will be like.
Originally Posted By leobloom And I can say the only reasons I've been on the Snow White ride in the past 10 years is because it has a short line and it's something to do. That's not a ringing endorsement for a dark ride. If the coaster can provide a more fun experience -- with or without the film's story -- I'll be happy.
Originally Posted By dshyates I kind of like the "visiting the place where the story happened" modus over the retelling of the story method. It does require prior knowledge of the story. (check, I'm up to speed with the SW story). The other method I prefer over a retelling is a new story utilizing the characters like Roger Rabbit CarToon Spin and Forbidden Journey.
Originally Posted By 3disneylocations SWSA is a crappy third rate carnival dark ride. Couldn't tell you the last time I rode it. A new themed attraction w/new tech is a welcome addition.
Originally Posted By leobloom But no matter how fun the ride turns out to be, it doesn't appear to be the kind of thing that's going to keep bringing me back to MK. Mermaid doesn't appear to be in that league, either. (Here's where I say, "Potter, on the other hand...")
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>If it's the former... I feel that it's a wrong fit for Fantasyland, where these stories are SUPPOSED to be told. Experiences, like BTMR and Space are much less story driven, and fit the other lands. If anything, Fantasyland is the place for these stories to be told over and over. << Disagree.
