Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<But that's not Fanboi bias at all, huh? >> No, it comes from working in and knowing Adventureland intimately. It comes from knowing that Indy is the perfect compliment to the feel and theme of the area.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^I've explained this to other people, but personally I'm really glad Fire Mountain never happened. The volcano would really clash with the rest of the land. The volcano would be visible on the Jungle Cruise, which none of the rivers have a huge volcano near it, and it would also clash with Caribbean Plaza.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>No, it comes from working in and knowing Adventureland intimately. It comes from knowing that Indy is the perfect compliment to the feel and theme of the area.<<< Just because it works in Disneyland doesn't mean that something else, and even something better could be done in our AdvL. Would I be opposed to it being cloned? Only slightly, seeing that one already exists. I don't want MK to copy Disneyland. I want it to emulate it, but not have the same things here. Something new is the ultimate choice for AdvL. Not something already built and just duplicated. That cheapens BOTH parks in my opinion.
Originally Posted By Dreamerica I guess. But while we're on the subject of clashing, could someone please remove that magic carpet thing?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Something new is the ultimate choice for AdvL. Not something already built and just duplicated. That cheapens BOTH parks in my opinion.>> Exactly, a new Indy Adventure, with a new ride system. It's the perfect fit. Just trust me. There is nothing better. Honestly. There's not. If there was, it would have been built already.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I guess. But while we're on the subject of clashing, could someone please remove that magic carpet thing?>> Don't get me started.
Originally Posted By Dreamerica Or how about that ugly concrete building at the edge of Space Mountain?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Exactly, a new Indy Adventure, with a new ride system. It's the perfect fit. Just trust me. There is nothing better. Honestly. There's not. If there was, it would have been built already.<<< Don't mean to be rude, but you sound like the highly intelligent patent officer who said that there was nothing left to invent...in 1845. Wanting more of the same is exactly what Disney wants you to want...and exactly what they want to build. It isn't taking risks. It isn't being creative. It's asking for the same...even if the same is pretty great. The World of Color is going to be fantastic. Going to revolutionize how Disney does Night/Light shows, I believe. Do I want it shoe horned into DHS? No. It's same with Indy. Yes, we get it. It's amazing. Fanbois worship it. Does it need to be cloned and cut up and sent over here? Nope. What's needed is something NEW. TOTALLY NEW. Can it use the same technology? Of course. (going back to my earlier example- you can bet that the WoC tech will and should be used in other productions) But it should be something wholly unique so that it makes WDW and the MK stand out for a change...seeing it desperately needs it. Another Indy ride will be nice...but it won't be something as big as it was originally. You want something HUGE for our MK? Put in something unique, something never done before.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Or how about that ugly concrete building at the edge of Space Mountain?<<< That's fine since they repainted it. Shame they didn't do that to the rest of the mountain...lighting, too.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper I basically disagree with everything you said in your last post EE. If it was any other land I'd agree with you. But Adventureland and Indy are cookies and milk, cake and ice cream, one thing and another that belong together. And again, I said new and not cloned. Make it unique. Go new all you want. But have the ride based on a franchise that is basically the heart of adventure.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I don't know. The ride really is a complete package. 3 pretty substantial show scenes, some real nice effects, a great story, and great thrills. Obviously upgrades can always be made, but I don't see a better thrill ride on WDW property. << ToT would be a world class E-ticket even without the drop sequence. It has a remarkable queue, and storyline. As you said, it's the complete package.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Sure, but something totally original, not a clone, would be infinitely better. << I'd settle for a Raqel Welch clone.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> The volcano would be visible on the Jungle Cruise, which none of the rivers have a huge volcano near it, and it would also clash with Caribbean Plaza. << But think of the jokes you could ad-lib.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I basically disagree with everything you said in your last post EE. If it was any other land I'd agree with you. But Adventureland and Indy are cookies and milk, cake and ice cream, one thing and another that belong together. And again, I said new and not cloned. Make it unique. Go new all you want. But have the ride based on a franchise that is basically the heart of adventure.<<< Unique, isn't based off of something already existing. Milking everything you can get out of a franchise isn't a risk. It isn't creative, it's mediocrity. I wouldn't say "It isn't Disney"...but these days...it is. Milk the mediocrity and cloning to the max, and thrill all the fanbois. Do something NEW. Sure, it'd fit reasonably, but WDI needs to challenge themselves. Doing more of the same got them into this rut in the first place.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Unique, isn't based off of something already existing.>> So ToT, JTTCOTE, formerly 20K, etc aren't unique? News to me. << Milk the mediocrity and cloning to the max, and thrill all the fanbois.>> *Sigh* A) I said don't clone. Are you reading my posts or not? B) Even if it was cloned, there's nothing mediocre about the ride <<Sure, it'd fit reasonably>> No, perfectly.
Originally Posted By macnak81 ok I missed something earlier, what is the Pixie ride? I also agree with comment #56 "little boys re not as profitable as little girls buying up everything princess. But come on the fairy factor is way to heavy.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<ok I missed something earlier, what is the Pixie ride?>> It's a proposed ride for Phase II of the expansion. It hasn't been announced, or even given a green light at this point.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>So ToT, JTTCOTE, formerly 20K, etc aren't unique? News to me.<<< Unique in the ride, sure. Not in story. That's what we need. New, and unique stories. >>> A) I said don't clone. Are you reading my posts or not? B) Even if it was cloned, there's nothing mediocre about the ride <<<< Cloning can go beyond the ride, and into storyline. This would be an example of it. Never said the ride was mediocre, but reverting back to the same franchise IS mediocre. >>No, perfectly.<< Your opinion...We've been over this, Hok.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>ok I missed something earlier, what is the Pixie ride? I also agree with comment #56 "little boys re not as profitable as little girls buying up everything princess. But come on the fairy factor is way to heavy.<< It might be a ride, might be another m/g. Keeping in mind that it's a NEW type of m/g, is when it gets interesting.
