Fantasyland Loosening Its Belt?

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    Originally Posted By MousDad

    Thanks for the info/explanation.
     
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    Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad

    Instead of another tea cup type ride How about something similar to the pooh ride from Japan. I've read the it is a must do?
     
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    Originally Posted By MPierce

    I'm hoping the Littlest Mermaid attraction will be on a par with Pooh's Honey Hunt.
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    As you know the DCA version is supposed to be spectacular. A real E+ Ticket attraction. So after DLR foots the bill for all the special FX I would think WDW will pay for the install.
    Unlike how they were pissing and moaniing about the install for th DLR-style Star Tours.
    WDW really needs to understand where their bread is buttered.
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    By thousands of schmucks who don't know quality from a hole in the wall - trust me, they've learned
     
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    Originally Posted By jmuboy

    I really think this rumored Pixie Hollow ride seen in the 3D model is more of a Mater style ride, not the lady bug boogie ride.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    But do we actually know how the Mater ride will work? All I've seen makes it look like it will be an 'outdoor darkride' with some sort of ride system that doesn't just go in straight lines or use a traditional track.

    What the Pixie Hollow thing appears to be (much like the Mater ride, but more clearly represented here) is a circuit of turntables like those used in Lady Bug Boogie. You will still progress through the attraction like it's a darkride, but you will be weaving your way around the bigger circuit of turntables. You will still go past all the scenery and stuff just like a normal darkride, but the way you move through it would be completely unique.

    To add to the excitement, one set of vehicles can traverse the course in one direction, while the other set of vehicles is going in the other, taking full advantage of the crisscrossing motion of the ride system. From what I've seen of both attractions, there isn't too much story being told by the props around them, so it would be possible to get the same experience heading in either direction. The drawings and model don't seem to have enough vehicles for them to be traveling in both directions, but as we know things can change.

    The big drawback to this system (assuming that's how they work, which is a total shot in the dark) is that it would be difficult to load the vehicles. The easiest way to do it would be to have the entire ride start and stop, much like LBB does now. That would require that guests walk to their vehicles out in the middle of the scenery, which might cause issues (specifically, slow loading times). I suppose they could find a way to work with the tecnology that hands off the vechicles between turntables, and have them 'hand off' the vehicles to a loading area like a normal darkride. After unloading and reloading with new guests, they could be picked up by the next turntable and go through the attraction again. Crazier things have happened, right?

    This is all total speculation gathered from some info in a couple non-specific concept drawings of the Mater ride and the Pixie model. If anybody actually knows something about the ride system that will be used (all I know is that it will be more than a standard darkride track), that would be great to know!
     
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    Originally Posted By Daannzzz

    It looks like both Mater's ride and the ride pictured in Pixie Hollow have two separate sides so that one may load while the other is in motion.
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    Here is more details from WDW News Today:

    "The Spring 2010 issue of Disney Twenty-Three magazine features a huge article on the Fantasyland Forest expansion (as it is now being referred to according to the article), featuring some never before released details on the project. Here are just a few interesting notes from the article that should be arriving in members mailboxes any day now:
    -In early 2006, Walt Disney Imagineering’s Eric Jacobson, creative lead for the Walt Disney World portfolio, and members of WDI’s Blue Sky Studio, led by Jon Georges, began brainstorming new E-ticket-like attractions for the Magic Kingdom. Imagineering’s creative leaders quickly determined that a bold reimagining of Fantasyland would have a far greater and longer-lasting impact on the Magic Kingdom experience than any one E-ticket attraction could ever hope to make.

    -That physical separation is a stone wall that will lead from Fantasyland proper into a heavily forested realm that will be far more organic and natural than the bricks, mortar, and asphalt of the existing land. “The expansion area won’t be built over the Utilidor,” Eric says, “so we’re able to plant trees and create water features, which we were never able to do with the rest of Fantasyland.”

    -The expansion, which has come to be known as Fantasyland Forest, will provide more fully realized homes for such longtime Magic Kingdom residents as Ariel and Dumbo as well as make room for some new additions to the neighborhood, from Belle and east to Tinker Bell and the fairies of Pixie Hollow. And that was part of the Imagineering team’s goal from the beginning.

    -”Our anchor is the Little Mermaid,” Jon explains. “The centerpiece of that area is Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid, an E-ticket attraction we codeveloped with the Disney’s California Adventure expansion team. It’s a ride-through experience that celebrates the characters and music from the animated classic.” And true to Imagineering’s goal to create the most immersive fantasy environments possible, the attraction is housed in an elaborately and highly detailed rockwork grotto behind a fully rendered version of Prince Eric’s castle from the film.

    -The Beauty and the Beast area is composed of three major show elements. The first is Enchanted Tales with Belle, one of three fairy-tale experiences created for Fantasyland Forest. The adventure begins when guests arrive at Maurice’s cottage, where they step through an enchanted mirror and are magically transported to the Beast’s library for an interactive storytelling session with Belle. At the Be Our Guest Restaurant, guests are invited to dine inside the Beast’s castle in one of three fully rendered environments, including a faithful re-creation of the ballroom. And once outside the castle, guests can explore Belle’s Village, an entire corner of the expansion area that includes Gaston’s Tavern.

    -Dreams Come True with Cinderella takes place within the Tremaine Chateau from the 1950 film, and A Birthday Surprise for Sleeping Beauty is tucked away inside Briar Rose Cottage, deep within a lush, Eyvind Earle-inspired forest. “Cinderella’s Chateau is fully realized,” Jon explains. “When you step through the doors of that attraction, your interaction is immediate. You arrive at the moment she realizes she won’t be going to the ball, and her dress will transform from rags to a ball gown before your eyes, and then she’ll step down and have a 15-minute interaction with the guests.” For the Sleeping Beauty experience, that entry point happens as Flora, Fauna, and Merryweather prepare to celebrate Briar Rose’s 16th birthday, smack dab in the middle of the action from the original film. Guests are treated to all sorts of interactive fairy magic inside the cottage, with Aurora herself as the guest of honor.

    -”You know, the ability to go to Cinderella’s Chateau and Belle’s Cottage to meet them is very exciting. As Imagineers. we don’t get to build those kinds of iconic locations very often. We’re going to look at this model as our template for other Fantasylands world-wide as we build new Magic Kingdom’s around the world.”

    -The final area, or neighborhood, is Dumbo’s Circus, which will relocate Dumbo the Flying Elephant from it’s current location and-get this, patient parents-double capacity by adding a second attraction, effectively cutting guests’ wait time in half! Imagineers are also air-conditioning the entire experience by moving the queue indoors-under the big top, as it were. “We’ll provide a fully immersive circus environment inside Dumbo’s Big Top,” says Jon, “where guests are invited to engage in a series of interactive experiences, from sideshow acts to carnival midway games, while they wait. We really endeavored to begin the guest experience the moment they entered the queue.” The Dumbo area, built on the former site of Mickey’s Toontown Fair, will also absorb Goofy’s Barnstormer and transform it into a Dumbo-centric, clown themed coaster.

    -And-drumroll please-Fantasyland forest won’t be limited to four neighborhoods for very long. Although the new expansion is slated to open in the fall of 2012, at the tail end of Walt Disney World’s 40th anniversary celebration, Imagineers already have their eyes on 2013, when Pixie Hollow will bring Tinker Bell and her fairy friends to Fantasyland Forest in the expansion’s second phase."

    So the Barnstormer is getting a "clown" retheme.
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    Oh, sorry, here is the link to the article.

    <a href="http://www.wdwnewstoday.com/archives/4958" target="_blank">http://www.wdwnewstoday.com/ar...ves/4958</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By jmuboy

    Still very vague on the Pixie Hollow stuff? Wonder why? Maybe the meet and greet and ride concepts were late additions and they decided not to rush that part of the project?
     
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    Originally Posted By brotherdave

    ...or maybe it will be cancelled and replaced with something else. I don't think the "Disney Fairy" franchise is happening the way they hoped...
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf


    They could have gotten more budget - Flamingo Crossing going down the drain is relatively new.
     

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