Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Interesting ... very, very interesting ... funny how these plans get leaked just when everyone in the fan community has nothing to talk about but Disney transportation disasters. No matter how much of this is true (and I am not sure, but much sounds right), I question strongly the timing of it. Could easily be the work of Disney Social Media. Yeah, I'm a realistic Spirit (haven't been to that MAGICAL place today, but they must be wetting themselves!)
Originally Posted By The Duck I like the idea of 2 Dumbo rides. I usually go to WDW in late January when there's hardly anyone there and the Dumbo lines are still ridiculous. Two of the rides would certainly help with crowd movement. Now if only they could work in a flying Dumbo for the fireworks show like in Anaheim but that's another story!
Originally Posted By MousDad #16-#17: The explanation floating around for the diminutive size of the LM show building is that it is a 2 level attraction. What you see in the shot is the upper load level, whereas the much larger, lower level houses the actual attraction. DCA clone, by the way.
Originally Posted By tonyanton I can't tell if most of the new area is enclosed, like Mermaid Lagoon at Tokyo DisneySea, with the areas labeled for Dumbo, Pixie Hollow, and the Barnstormer (re-themed?) being outside. If this is real, I think most of the "attractions" are probably well-themed, meet-and-greets for the individual princesses. The idea of two Dumbo attractions to increase capacity is a good idea. If I remember correctly, there was an idea for a two-level Dumbo back in the '70s for the never-built "Dumbo's Circus" land in DL.
Originally Posted By brotherdave If true, this is definitely dissapointing. With the exception of the proposed Little Mermaid ride, new double Dumbo, and B&B restaurant, it's nothing but highly themed meet & greets. With the exception of Barnstormer, it looks like Mickey's Toontown Faire is getting nuked. Not necessarily a bad thing, but to remove them for nothing more than princess meet & greets is just stupid. Also, does it look like train tracks near the double Dumbo? Is it possible that they were thinking of adding a Casey Jr here, but was left off at the end? I'm sorry, but so much more could be accomplished here and all we get is one smallish dark ride (from looks of the area on the plans) and an additional Dumbo spinner? No thanks. If true, dissapointing is all I can say.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Yes, an expansion to Pooh Playground, it always gets so busy so a couple extra slides will do wonders for the kids enjoyment.... nnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Interesting ... very, very interesting ... funny how these plans get leaked just when everyone in the fan community has nothing to talk about but Disney transportation disasters. < I am glad I am not the only one whose mind this crossed -- to me it's what lends possible credibility to the 'plans' -- just a guess but I think they were released to draw attention away from the 2 accidents
Originally Posted By MPierce >> No matter how much of this is true (and I am not sure, but much sounds right), I question strongly the timing of it. << >> I am glad I am not the only one whose mind this crossed -- to me it's what lends possible credibility to the 'plans' -- just a guess but I think they were released to draw attention away from the 2 accidents << No comment!
Originally Posted By ORD84 >> No matter how much of this is true (and I am not sure, but much sounds right), I question strongly the timing of it. << >> I am glad I am not the only one whose mind this crossed -- to me it's what lends possible credibility to the 'plans' -- just a guess but I think they were released to draw attention away from the 2 accidents << Agreed the timing of when this was "leaked" adds some credibility to these plans... >>If true, this is definitely dissapointing. With the exception of the proposed Little Mermaid ride, new double Dumbo, and B&B restaurant, it's nothing but highly themed meet & greets. With the exception of Barnstormer, it looks like Mickey's Toontown Faire is getting nuked. Not necessarily a bad thing, but to remove them for nothing more than princess meet & greets is just stupid. Also, does it look like train tracks near the double Dumbo? Is it possible that they were thinking of adding a Casey Jr here, but was left off at the end? I'm sorry, but so much more could be accomplished here and all we get is one smallish dark ride (from looks of the area on the plans) and an additional Dumbo spinner? No thanks. If true, dissapointing is all I can say.<< I think if I'm looking good enough at the plans, that there is at least a couple of attractions other than a meet n greet..If you look at the plans (granted its hard to read and you have to get right up to the screen to make out what the very small print says) You can see that they are planning a restuarant, a tavern(who doesn't need a beer walking around the MK with a bunch of cotton candied up kids?), one very small merch area(thank god more places to buy merchandise), a dark ride(Little Mermaid), a belle, aurora and a cinderella attraction, and additional Dumbo spinner.. I'd like to think that I am reading these plans right, and that makes 4 new attractions to FL, 1 restuarant, 1 bar, and several new meet and greets..I wonder how they are going to retheme the barnstormer, looking at the Disney Princess theme prevailing it will probably be remade into the princess something or other... Now what those small attractions entail, only the Imagineers and bean counters know, with such small areas set aside I'm not sure what they can do with that, but we will see. Maybe these plans indicate Disney has been awakened by the threat of Harry Potter Island over at Universal???
Originally Posted By leobloom >>... a belle, aurora and a cinderella attraction, and additional Dumbo spinner.. I'd like to think that I am reading these plans right, and that makes 4 new attractions to FL, 1 restuarant, 1 bar, and several new meet and greets..I wonder how they are going to retheme the barnstormer, looking at the Disney Princess theme prevailing it will probably be remade into the princess something or other... Now what those small attractions entail, only the Imagineers and bean counters know, with such small areas set aside I'm not sure what they can do with that, but we will see. >>> The consensus is these small "attractions" are just meet-and-greets. Whoop-dee-freakin-doo
Originally Posted By Hista98 I am excioted for the plans overall. but I hope they don't build some of the dark rides. they are al lthemed to disney princesses. Whcih I think may make the land a little too stale. I would like to see more dark rides but maybe add some variety. Like have B and B and little mermaid. Those look cool. but maybe instead of Sleeping beauty and cinderella maybe do pinocchio and Alice in wonderland. That way there are more rides that boys would be drwen to with pinocchio and ones for girls not interested in princess. i think too many princess rides would be nice but it would get old after a while, ando nly draw one type of audience. maybe also you could do fire moutnain there instead to give the older set something to do. I wish the plans for the skyway had been included with the blueprints.
Originally Posted By ORD84 >>The consensus is these small "attractions" are just meet-and-greets. Whoop-dee-freakin-doo<< If that truely is what the final product is, I know many people will be dissapointed... >>I am excioted for the plans overall. but I hope they don't build some of the dark rides. they are al lthemed to disney princesses. Whcih I think may make the land a little too stale. I would like to see more dark rides but maybe add some variety. Like have B and B and little mermaid. Those look cool. but maybe instead of Sleeping beauty and cinderella maybe do pinocchio and Alice in wonderland. That way there are more rides that boys would be drwen to with pinocchio and ones for girls not interested in princess. i think too many princess rides would be nice but it would get old after a while, ando nly draw one type of audience. maybe also you could do fire moutnain there instead to give the older set something to do. I wish the plans for the skyway had been included with the blueprints.<< The one thing that I haven't seen is that no one seems to know what draft this is...if the do please do tell the rest of the board, I hope this is just a first draft which would allow for many different changes to the format, but as it looks right now it might as well be called Princess Land and not part of FL.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Those princess 'attractions' aren't in the classic sense. Mermaid is a real attraction. Beauty and Beast may be. Cindy's could well be a version of the TDL-bound castle basement walk-thru. ... and Pixie Hollow may well have a major attraction in it ... a real attraction. Not a meet and greet. But again, these 'plans' aren't etched in stone ... and I'll bet you anything they were leaked purposely, so the fan community doesn't keep focusing on the monorail disaster and the bus crash and the follow on both ... much better to talk about finally getting new stuff at MK.
Originally Posted By Indigo They may have released the blueprint to counter the bad news, but I, for one, did not plan to talk about the Bus Accident much. I see it as bad coincidence rather than bad planning (which I think explains the Monorail accident). As for adding all those princess and pixies to Fantasyland, I see the department of synergy's hand here. That's the team responsible for maximizing revenue through tie-ins between Disney's various divisions. I still believe in my heart that when given a chance WDI would want to add an actual attraction and not a meet & greet. If this is the final plan, I hope WDI is able to do as much as they can to add magic to the meet and greets, while also figuring out how to cut down on the time spent in queue waiting for a 10-20 second princess interaction.
Originally Posted By Britain Personally, I don't care if they area all meet and greets as long as they come with lush landscaping and interesting architecture. Down with festival tents!
Originally Posted By Scottydem I think anything will help if it gets rid of MTTF and adds an extra Dumbo. The LM ride looks AMAZING, and why don't we ever get an Up attraction? It is rivaling Nemo's success and could be in Fantasyland or even Adventureland.
Originally Posted By Hista98 they won't add an up attraction to fsntasyland. It has to be exculivley baesd on only disney classic films. not pixar
Originally Posted By leobloom >>they won't add an up attraction to fsntasyland. It has to be exculivley baesd on only disney classic films. not pixar >> Not necessarily. Small World isn't based on a Disney film. And 20K wasn't even an animated film. I doubt they'd have many qualms about adding a Pixar attraction there. Hell, especially since they added 2 Pixars to Tomorrowland, where they are even more misplaced.
Originally Posted By HMButler1979 "Mermaid is a real attraction. Beauty and Beast may be" Spirit, you REALLY think we may get the long sought B&B AA Dinner Show?? I doubt even Eric has that much clout to get TDO to open the piggy bank. Unless Iger and Lassetter DEMAND them too.
