Originally Posted By bayrr326 Well, that doesn't surprise me. It will end up being lame. I have no faith in TDO and esp MK management.
Originally Posted By Hista98 when will management realise that they need to really spend the big bucks to get the good attractions and get people to go with the park? do they think we like the scraped down versions of things? i say boycott the new FL if it's not good. honeslt ywh ydo they not like taking care of WDW? it could be a great park if the spend the money. you have to spend money to make money!!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Since we don't know the full extent of what was proposed and what was approved or cut, it's not just speculation ... it's speculation based on speculation. FWIW, WDI knows how their projects are gonna get the budget axe and build in a certain level of 'safety' ... that said if a project goes from say $750 million to $250 million (one rumor going around) that means a whole lot less is going to get built, plussed, changed. The rumor mill seems to be heating up that D23 will see some announcement of WDW plans beyond the years in the making Star Tours 2.0. No idea whether this is true.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I'd be tickled pink that if true .... someone leaked it to show the fan community ... that the heads at Disney are really "out to lunch" if they think a series of Meet & Greets are going to be the competition to the Harry Potter additions at Universal !! Thumbs up to Universal. (Go kick Disney's Ass!!!!!!!!!!!) And a big thumbs down to Disney for trying to convince us that an obsession to meet & greets are all above ATTRACTIONS!
Originally Posted By oc_dean We need a new topic - Maybe in the DL area which gets more traffic .. about the phenomenon of the PHOTO OP LOCATION. Or the other term: Meet & Greet. These places where one gets a photo with their favorite Disney Character .. and maybe a photograph. In the old days .... you just sent the characters on their merry way ... strolling through a land. Then came the Photo Op locations .. and with time they have been increasingly getting more elaborate in the last decade. NOW .. they are EXCUSES to build something on the cheap. Disney thinks they've WON .. because they've brainwashed the public enough to cough up these elaborate Photo Op locations ... and now ... it's their means to not build REAL Attractions .. because .. as long as the Disney Going Public soaks up these moments with their favorite characters with smiles and giggles for the 5 minutes they are with them ..... WHY BOTHER SPENDING MONEY ON R-E-A-L Attractions??????????? Meet & Greets = low cost to Disney!
Originally Posted By oc_dean edit ... sorry here ... above I mention a photo twice. I meant to say .. A photo .. and an AUTOGRAPH!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo YEp, it used to be putting spotty teens in a costume was cheaper than union performers than streetmoushpere, and now they are a replacement for real themed dining, attractions and even WDI are trying to replicate the thing with the interactive AA's, Turtle Talk, Stitch Encounter, Laugh Floor. For the first time in 10 years I no longer have an AP to a Disney park, and it is not for economic reasons, but because I have had enough.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Now, Universal is poised to gang more up on Disney as their standards keep climbing with Harry Potter .. as Disney continues to take a dive in their overall level of quality and COMMITMENT to quality.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Lol. Even in Europe it is amusing. We went to Legoland Windsor on Monday and Tuesday and we experienced 4 new attractions. Now usually you could argue there is no comparison between Legoland and Disney attractions, but the new Lazer Blaster ride had interactive AA's that are better than DCA's Monsters Inc or Pooh Attraction, and the Bob the Builder 3D was quite good and specially made for Legoland. The other 2 were a highly themed gaming experience similar to an Epcot Post Show and a themed faqir ground ride for little ones. LAst year was an excellent Lego Viking themed raft ride and a spinner. Ok, I do not want Disney going down this route necessarily (god knows I do not want the new Toy Story Playland going into WDSP next year), but Legoland now seems to offer better value overall. Factor in a coke in DLP is now $5.25 whereas at Legoland you can now get a refillable coke bottle for $9. Hmmmmm Sadly I have come to the conclusion that Disney is no longer the company I fell in love with and had a life long obsession for. It was attention to detail themeing, experiences you could not get elsewhere, shopping and dining that is immersive in theme, and live entertainment everywhere you turn. Sadly that company no longer exists - where an attraction is now 50/50 between excellent and meh. A company where synergy toons are pushed at every corner. A company that only has vision and leadership that they bought in (Pixar). And it breaks my heart.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Since we don't know the full extent of what was proposed and what was approved or cut, it's not just speculation ... it's speculation based on speculation. FWIW, WDI knows how their projects are gonna get the budget axe and build in a certain level of 'safety' ... that said if a project goes from say $750 million to $250 million (one rumor going around) that means a whole lot less is going to get built, plussed, changed. The rumor mill seems to be heating up that D23 will see some announcement of WDW plans beyond the years in the making Star Tours 2.0. No idea whether this is true. << I speculate, no matter how it turns out it will be a whole lot less than anyone speculated on in the beginning of the speculation.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 The rumor mill seems to be heating up that D23 will see some announcement of WDW plans beyond the years in the making Star Tours 2.0. No idea whether this is true. In the local papers out there- the new version will be announced Saturday Sept 12 --
Originally Posted By jmuboy Any new FL will include a LM ride to open about a year after DCA’s to give DCA a much needed marketing push. Maybe a rehab of the facades and interiors of Snow and Pan. Plus possibly a few minor characters meeting areas and a restaurant. Toontown will not be demolished. I think we can bet on that. Something of that is way too ambitious for the penny pinchers that run WDW now.
Originally Posted By bayrr326 "Toontown will not be demolished." I don't know the structures in Toontown are way past their shelf life. It would make sense to get rid of it and expand Fantasyland, which in Mgmt eyes is going to make them the most money, since they can throw out more characters and more shops with more plush and generic tshirts. The question to me is are they gonna upgrade the rest of FL. MK's Peter Pan is a joke compared to the DL version and Snow White is pretty crappy too. Besides the Lm ride we do need at least one more dark ride. If we get that plus the expanded Dumbo it would be a nice addition
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Actually, when Toon Town Faire was rebuilt a few years ago to include Goofy's Barn stormer along with Donald's house boat, Mickey's house was given a major over-haul and Minnie's house was built as a brand new structure. So it wouldn't seem that those creations are as worn out and ready to fall down as you might think. Over all, it seems that Toon Town--for the most part--could continue as it is for quite some time. The major exceptions would be the tents behind the two mouse houses. Those monstrosities should have been allowed to collapse a long time ago to make way for something better.
Originally Posted By Hista98 So is it really 9 days until the big reveal? Yes but you won't hear anything about the new WDW FL mainly becuase there are not enough details to relase right now, too the budget keeps getitng moved around so they aren't sure what will end up being built so they are holding off announcing anything so as not to say something will happen and then fall through.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Hello, Mr. X, duckling. Just had to come out of our nice, safe hiding place to respond to you!!
