Originally Posted By figment1986 This is not that bad of a name, pending what hollywood attractions they are looking at constructing other than pixar. It fits the Hollywood Tower Hotel/Twilight Zone Tower of Terror, as well as sort of fits Rockin Roller Coaster. At least they can appease George Lucas and maybe get some more from his famous properties? Maybe even Steven Spielberg and build something from Rodger Rabbit in Florida. I agree, It could have been better however this name is better than Disney-Pixar or some other names they tossed around... If only they downplayed the studios name since they only do uplinks and broadcast from the parks from there if I remember correctly.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Since Hollywod will be the focus of the new name... then, why can't they remove the BAH out of the way and allow the symbol of Hollywood: The Chinese Theater, to once again be visible as you enter the park and walk up "Hollywood" Blvd? I mean... it makes sense.
Originally Posted By MPierce I keep hearing some kind of legal battle over the Chinese Theater being the Icon of the park. It has to be something like that. As bad as the placement of the Wand, and Leave a Legacy are, they do not match the really bad placement of the Hat. Disney has made bad decisions before, and will probably make some more in the future. I just don't think anyone there could have thought this was a good idea, and was going to be permanent. I really would like to know the real story behind the location of the Hat. I would have picked a different name for the Disney Studios, but nobody asked for my opinion. I wonder how much money this name change is going to cost?
Originally Posted By SpectroWishes321 Just to let you guys know, The Castle isn't part of Main Street, it's part of Fantasyland.
Originally Posted By danyoung >I keep hearing some kind of legal battle over the Chinese Theater being the Icon of the park. It has to be something like that.< I've heard people float rumors around, but I just don't buy them. If there really were some kind of legal action against Disney by the owners of the real Chinese Theater, do you really think it would all go away if the building was still there but covered up by the BAH? Nope, I think it was just a very bad decision by the marketing folks who were in search of an icon, and they forced one into the wrong place.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I don't buy them rumors about the Chinese Theater either. As far as I know, this is just a tall tale from Disney itself to justify selling souvenirs in the hub or justify someone's ego in making bad decisions in regards to show and theming.
Originally Posted By SFH I don't buy the legal rumors, either. I mean, wouldn't Disney lawyers have made sure that was all worked out ahead of time? Or was there some time limit on how long the Chinese Theater could remain the icon? SFH
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Just to let you guys know, The Castle isn't part of Main Street, it's part of Fantasyland. << By definition, that's true. But c'mon -- it's right at the end of the dang street. Don't get me wrong. I like the castle there. It's a legacy from Walt. And it does represent a "happily ever after" at the end of lots of fairy tales. Snow White included. It works. My point is that some folks who don't like the hat where it is use the "theming" argument, and should at least the same theming issue exists with the castle. Is it that some just don't like that something is different from the way it was originally? Personally, I always thought the Chinese Theater to be a creepy choice for a primary icon. The Chinese Theater would have been better on a side street off of Hollywood Boulevard, along with the rest of the Hollywood buildings. I'd love to know more about the reality of why Grauman's was chosen to begin with.
Originally Posted By kennect Maybe with this new name removing the giant hat rocket will come into play....With the new name that Chinese theater really does need to be seen when one steps into the park....What is so sad about the whole the theater thing is the idea that they did such a great job recreating it...But sadly you can't even see it these days....
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Maybe with this new name removing the giant hat rocket will come into play....<< Don't count on it. The BAH will receive a refurbishing to repair the damage done by the 3 hurricanes of 2004, and get new lighting. It's not going anywhere in the foreseeable future.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I keep hearing some kind of legal battle over the Chinese Theater being the Icon of the park. It has to be something like that.>> This is Internet/CM/Geek myth with zero basis in fact. None. Nada. Zip. Place it with the dark spaces on the Swan/Dolphin being spaces for monorail stations, the Castle turrets being removable in hurricanes, Disney building (any) fifth gate but especially one themed to villains ... oh and Walt being frozen. Why do people want to believe things that just aren't true? Oh yeah, tens of millions still believe our prez ... or the lie that we have the best healthcare in the world ... and a thriving economy ... so why not believe the BAH is there because Disney can't showcase the Chinese Theater for legal reasons?
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 The Castle and the Hat are two different situations though. Yes, maybe some people find it strange that Cinderella Castle sits at the end of Main Street. The thing is, it was not built directly in front of another icon. The hat was. There is very obviously a large, iconic building directly behind it that is now obscured by the hat. If that thing was there from the beginning, then I don't think people would have a problem. Well, maybe the would, because it's not terribly attractive for a major icon, but anyway. I think people are just miffed that it was plopped down right in front of an already established park icon. It would be like putting a huge...thing right in front of Cinderella Castle and making that the new icon of the park. In fact, didn't Disneyland Paris erect a HUGE pumpkin at Halloween that obscured a lot of the castle and looked kind of tacky? At least it went away after the holiday was over though...
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Why do people want to believe things that just aren't << Well, because no one has really given the definitive answer of why the hat is there. It's placement makes no sense, so what's the real reason. Has the WDC slipped so low that they can't even correct an obvious mistake. I'm sure it would be less costly to deal with than the Wand. >> Oh yeah, tens of millions still believe our prez ... or the lie that we have the best healthcare in the world ... and a thriving economy ... so why not believe the BAH is there because Disney can't showcase the Chinese Theater for legal reasons? << Tens of millions does not equate into a majority, and he doesn't lie all the time. Besides I still believe in the USA, and the American people. Most of the world do come here when they need health care so I would still say it's best. The system that governs it may be flawed, and to many people can't afford it, but I still think if it's not the best it's right up there. As for the Hat as I stated I don't really know why it's there.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Well, because no one has really given the definitive answer of why the hat is there.>> That depends. I've stated it many times. But I'm not a WDW spokespirit. I know exactly why it was done. But I can't prove it, I can just state it. <<It's placement makes no sense, so what's the real reason.>> It makes perfect sense if a.) You want to create a new icon/marketing tool for the park with a Disney tie; and b.) the plan is to gut the GMR and replace it with a Disney character based attraction (that was the plan in the 2000-02 period) and you want to make folks forget the amazing building behind the pin shack. It really is as simple as that. <<Has the WDC slipped so low that they can't even correct an obvious mistake.>> It's only a mistake in your eyes and my eyes and other people with taste and common sense. Your mistake is assuming others have that. <<I'm sure it would be less costly to deal with than the Wand.>> I'm not a construction expert, but I'd tend to agree. >> Oh yeah, tens of millions still believe our prez ... or the lie that we have the best healthcare in the world ... and a thriving economy ... so why not believe the BAH is there because Disney can't showcase the Chinese Theater for legal reasons? << <<Tens of millions does not equate into a majority, and he doesn't lie all the time.>> OK. You got me. Only 90% of the time. That's why his approval rating is back in the low 30s. <<Besides I still believe in the USA, and the American people.>> Let's just say I'd like to. I'm an All-American Spirit after all. But I've lost a lot of faith in the past decade. <<Most of the world do come here when they need health care so I would still say it's best. The system that governs it may be flawed, and to many people can't afford it, but I still think if it's not the best it's right up there.>> It isn't. Really. Not at all. It's likely still in the top quarter, but since we're the wealthiest nation shouldn't we do better? And since I know people who have to leave the USA to get adequete healthcare because they lack insurance, all I'll say is go see 'Sicko' ... whether you like Michael Moore or not. I can tell you from experience that most of what he presents is dead on. The problem is so many Americans never travel abroad and are so ego-centric they never open their minds to the fact that just maybe things could be better elsewhere or that we may just not do things the best way! And I really don't want to start a political debate, but when people I love have to go abroad or die here from lack of treatment, well, I have lost a great deal of faith in OUR supposedly being a compassionate nation. Maybe if a puppy gets trapped in a storm drain ... but not when it really counts. <<As for the Hat as I stated I don't really know why it's there. >> Hopefully, I explained it above. And, sorry for the political rant, but when you live something, you tend to understand it a lot deeper than what you see/hear/read. Our healthcare system sucks. And health insurance is a giant fraud for the most part.
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^ I wrongly used most of the world comes here when they need medical care. I meant people who could afford it come here for the best treatment, and care for a vast amount of different illnesses. Also I think the vast majority of Americans are leary of the economy. Wall Street loves it, Insurance Co's. love it, the Oil Co's. love it. Even though unemployment is low, and inflation remains low I think people are still being cautious, and rightly so.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> And I really don't want to start a political debate, but when people I love have to go abroad or die here from lack of treatment, well, I have lost a great deal of faith in OUR supposedly being a compassionate nation. Maybe if a puppy gets trapped in a storm drain ... but not when it really counts. << If it's for experimental treatment I can understand it. Yes opening up different treatments is an all to slow process here, but no one should be allowed to die for lack of money or for lack of any treatment. I agree everyone should have affordable health care. I just don't know how to supply it. >> Hopefully, I explained it above. << Yes you did, and thank you. You shattered my hopes that there could possible be a good reason why it was placed there. What next Spirit... Mickey's just a small person insde a costume?
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 What happens to our unemployment rate when (not if) all our soldiers come home?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "Most of the world do come here when they need health care so I would still say it's best." That's a joke. Only when they want to pay for stuff other doctor's won't ethically do, but that's for another discussion.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "Let's just say I'd like to. I'm an All-American Spirit after all. But I've lost a lot of faith in the past decade." Sad, but so so true!!!
