Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt Pooh sux! bring back Toad!! I've NEVER waited more than a slow walk on for Pooh. I only visit FL at night, after all the kiddies have left the Park!
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt I can't! here lookin' at you MPierce <a href="http://www.ntoddblog.org/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/19/mrtoadbigger.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.ntoddblog.org/photo...gger.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I waited with my little one in a horridly long Pooh line (no Fastpass) very late in the evening. I couldn't believe how slow that ride cycled. If there was a Fastpass I would have been on it like white on rice.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 I've noticed that at different times of the day and night the Pooh line can be very long. I've waited as little at 10min. to as much as 45 mi. I can see a fastpass being used.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I can't! here lookin' at you MPierce <a href="http://www.ntoddblog.org/photo...gger.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.ntoddblog.org/photo...gger.jpg</a> << Mr Toad always looked like somebody who had been binge drinking to me.
Originally Posted By Hista98 see i always thought wdw's toad was better, much longer and had two diffrent versions!!!
Originally Posted By leobloom >> "I have never waited more than 10 or 15 minutes for Pooh at Disneyland." << Now we're talking about my area of expertise. And to the OP: no, you don't have to use a Fastpass to use the wonderful WDW restrooms. But you can sit on the toilet and pin-trade with the CMs who are stationed in each stall. Talk about a magical moment!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Mr Toad always looked like somebody who had been binge drinking to me.<<< Toad with a Drinking "mania". Yeah, I see it.
Originally Posted By Hista98 why did they get rid of it? they saw winnie the pooh as a much more profitable franchise. and they could include a gift shop too. Personally though, I would have built pooh on the 20 k site, then they could have built the ride they wanted rather then shoehorning. They also could have included a whole pooh area, such as a gift shop,play area, meet and greet, and maybe even a resturant.
Originally Posted By magnet FastPass is, without a doubt, one of the worst ideas ever implemented. Anyone who has spent long hours commuting to work or driving on a vacation knows that some of the worst traffic jams are caused when two lanes of traffic must merge into one. Yes, the dreaded traffic construction merge - it does for I-95 exactly what fastpass does for some of my most beloved rides at WDW - creates sheer gridlock. By allowing the fastpass lane to board unrestrictedly (i.e. with minimal to no wait), the wait times for the normal queue are stretched to an intolerable length. It's simply abysmal. The number of these tickets dispensed for any particular period is too high, and guests insist on using them to return whenever they darn well feel like it. And don't think for a second that someone hasn't already had the "bright idea" of allowing people to BUY sets of fastpasses, for example, or to have a set of them provided as a perk for those who stay at a Disney property. I think it hasn't come into existence yet because there's not enough capacity (or time in a day) to give everyone a ride with zero waiting. Extra Magic Hours are a much better solution for giving resort guests an extra perk. In fact, EMH is a wonderful idea if it helps to restrain the fastpass system from ruining any more magic.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>I have to admit that I was also shocked to find out that there is no Indy at the Magic Kingdom. That pretty-much eliminates the Adventureland gridlock, doesn't it?<<< How can Indy in DL cause gridlock in the park? I am completely convinced based on the length of the Q that the actual Indy ride is in Mexico. I didn't think I would ever get to the end and the first time I did, just before boarding they evacuated the ride and we all had to go back the length of the Q and basically start over when whatever happened, cleared. >>>FastPass is, without a doubt, one of the worst ideas ever implemented. Anyone who has spent long hours commuting to work or driving on a vacation knows that some of the worst traffic jams are caused when two lanes of traffic must merge into one. Yes, the dreaded traffic construction merge - it does for I-95 exactly what fastpass does for some of my most beloved rides at WDW - creates sheer gridlock.<<< Magnet, you are in for a long frustrating battle with that opinion. I have been preaching that for years now and obviously we are not able to get that information through to the people that make decisions for Disney. I don't know what the percentage of FP users actually make up the riders for any given ride, but from my observations my guess would be not much more than 30%. That's 30% of gloriously smug and hyper customers in comparison to 70% unhappy and frustrated customers. I don't know what school of Economics these "leaders" went to but they were not good at math. Any text book will tell you that 100% of mildly, but equal, frustrated customers is better than 70% of unhappy, angry customers. Do the math, Disney!
Originally Posted By HMButler79 Magnet is correct. We would OVERdispense so many JC FPs during the 12-2pm hours, that when the those guests' time came around the FP would be LONGER than Standby. A truly abhorrent system!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Personally though, I would have built pooh on the 20 k site, then they could have built the ride they wanted rather then shoehorning. They also could have included a whole pooh area, such as a gift shop,play area, meet and greet, and maybe even a resturant. << Excellent idea. Plus we would still have Mr Toads Wild Ride.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Ugh...another "fastpass is evil" debate? There's nothing wrong with fastpass. The problem is managers who can't adjust the FP machines correctly for the day.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> FastPass is, without a doubt, one of the worst ideas ever implemented. Anyone who has spent long hours commuting to work or driving on a vacation knows that some of the worst traffic jams are caused when two lanes of traffic must merge into one. Yes, the dreaded traffic construction merge - it does for I-95 exactly what fastpass does for some of my most beloved rides at WDW - creates sheer gridlock. << >> Magnet, you are in for a long frustrating battle with that opinion. I have been preaching that for years now and obviously we are not able to get that information through to the people that make decisions for Disney. I don't know what the percentage of FP users actually make up the riders for any given ride, but from my observations my guess would be not much more than 30%. That's 30% of gloriously smug and hyper customers in comparison to 70% unhappy and frustrated customers. I don't know what school of Economics these "leaders" went to but they were not good at math. Any text book will tell you that 100% of mildly, but equal, frustrated customers is better than 70% of unhappy, angry customers. Do the math, Disney! << >> Magnet is correct. We would OVERdispense so many JC FPs during the 12-2pm hours, that when the those guests' time came around the FP would be LONGER than Standby. A truly abhorrent system! << But Fast Pass sounds so wonderful when you hear about it on the WDW vacation tape. In theory it's great. In practice it's an abomination.
