Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>.............i like fast pass too.........shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!<<< You don't have to hide it. I understand and I believe that I revealed that I use it as well. I have too now. It's a matter of survival. I just don't think it was a good overall idea. I think that its benefits have been hyped beyond belief and that overall it is bad for repeat business from anyone other than FP users. It's not your fault, it's Disney fault. You like it...you should use it. I just hope that it eventually goes away. Not likely to happen though even though in recent years they have removed a number of attractions from the FP family.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I don't know what the percentage of FP users actually make up the riders for any given ride, but from my observations my guess would be not much more than 30%. That's 30% of gloriously smug and hyper customers in comparison to 70% unhappy and frustrated customers. I don't know what school of Economics these "leaders" went to but they were not good at math. Any text book will tell you that 100% of mildly, but equal, frustrated customers is better than 70% of unhappy, angry customers. Do the math, Disney! >>> If that were the only problem with FP, then it could be easily solved: just increase the percentage of FP riders to over 50% - then you'd have more people that benefited than didn't on each attraction. And yes, I realize that there are other reasons why this wouldn't be a good idea - I'm just responding to this one issue that MPierce brought up.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad We just try to use the system available to us. We arrive early, use standby and FP and get most of our rides done by noon. After noon we explore and tour doing other things which don't require waiting in a long line and yes we use the occasional FP along the way. In our tour method, if a line has more than a 30 minute wait we don't get in it. That's why it's rides in the morning and shows and stuff in the afternoon. FP allows us to do other things and not have to wait in line. But it would be impossible for us to enjoy the parks to the fullest if we didn't arrive early. On the rare occasions when we don't arrive early, (like park hopping) I reverse tour order with rides being done later unless there is a fastpass available. And that's why for us FP is a benefit not a hinderance.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Yes, I'm obsessive compulsive, and save every single one of them. I frame them, ad organize them by date, time, trip, wait time. They live riiiiight next to my D23 Pin Collection, and my display box of Vinylmation /Kidding...Maybe?
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt I have a friend (believe it or not) that keeps an unused FP for JC in her wallet!
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<In a restaurant everyone can make a reservation...again...not everyone can get a FP. Yes, I know...if you get there early enough one will be available to you. So do you get to a restaurant in the morning for an evening meal with a reservation?>> We're talking Disney here. No, you don't make a reservation in the morning, you make it six MONTHS ahead of time. If you wait till the morning of the day you want to eat at a particular restaurant, you're in for a rude awakening. So it's just like FP...you snooze, you lose.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>So it's just like FP...you snooze, you lose.<<< Except that I don't feel like I'm losing anything. There is absolutely nothing that Disney has to offer in the line of food that I feel compelled to think about 6 months in advance. So basically you stand in line for 6 months, right? That better be some extremely good food!
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Maybe you don't, but it's obviously important to a lot of guests, who do make those reservations by calling at the very minute if not second the phone lines open. Is it worth it? I dunno, but I can say that I wanted to try Boma, didn't have a reservation and ended up waiting two hours to get a table. My mom and I found things to do around the hotel, but she was starving by the time we finally got seated.
Originally Posted By sjhym33 The problem with FP is that the FP return line which is about 30% of the hourly capacity gets priority over the Standby Line which is 70% of capacity. That automatically sets up a problem. Then add to that fact that guests dont always follow thier return time hour and then add in a CM who isnt doesnt understand the system or doesnt care and you can see why the Standby wait times are high. I do think that FP is great on medium busy days when you can walk up and get a FP for a return time that is an hour later. Then you can walk over and do another attraction, return and ride. That is when the system works great. But if I had a vote I would get rid of FP altogether.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 You should post a pic of your collection. That way we never have to meet and disappoint each other.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Hmm ... I just realized that this trip was my first WDW one in many years when I didn't get/use one FP the entire time.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^Yup. It's not very crowded right now. I was at Epcot for about 3 and 1/2 to 4 hours today, got on SSE, M:S, TT, LwtL, Nemo, and did some browsing in WS without needing a Fastpass.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>You should post a pic of your collection. That way we never have to meet and disappoint each other.<<< LMAO!!! I think I actually have a Soarin' one on my EPCOT shelf...Hang on....
