Originally Posted By DVC_dad <that is about the worst jab I am going to take as the poor guy> I mean AT the poor guy.
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden <<Well after much thought, and consideration I have decided to not let someone like that run me off from what I consider my friends. >> Good news.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Keep the name, and keep posting DVC_dad! We've all had run-ins here -- some have even left for a short time. It's amazing how dicey it can get in a message board, huh? Keep your screenname, it works.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Gee... I go away for 4 short little days to Tokyo and miss all the fun... (check my TOT pics in the tokyo section)
Originally Posted By schoolsinger The main reason Disney started the Fastpass system was so that people would be shopping or eating instead of being in line. Instead people go in line for other rides. This leads to what I think is the main problem with Fastpass. People are in two lines at once. When that happens, either the Fastpass ride, the ride the person is standing in line while waiting for the Fastpass time, or both will have a longer line. This means that lines overall go up. I think in order for the Fastpass virtual queue to really act like a real queue, it needs to be that you can only be in one line at a time. That means that when you get a fastpass, you are not allowed to go into any other ride line until your time comes. I think this approach will make Fastpass less like a way to cut the lines, but rather a way to wait your turn in comfort This would also fulfill Disney’s original idea of getting people to spend more time shopping.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I think in order for the Fastpass virtual queue to really act like a real queue, it needs to be that you can only be in one line at a time. That means that when you get a fastpass, you are not allowed to go into any other ride line until your time comes.>> That wouldn't work unless FP's were rationed. There are times when you end up getting a FP time that is many hours into the future. Not only that, how would Disney monitor your movements while you're holding a FP? If you hopped into another queue while waiting for your FP time to come up, how would they prevent you from riding within that window?
Originally Posted By schoolsinger For a fastpass they could use wrist bands. If you go to a line with a wristband on they won’t let you in. If you take the wristband off it will void the fastpass. The wrist bands will also be the kind that you need to break to take off, preventing you from putting it back on.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost ***Gosh, doesn't that sound like a fun provoking idea. Sort of like being on house arrest. Wait I have an idea! Why not just get rid of Fastpass? Novel idea I realize but think of the possibilities. Warning: If anyone noticed any sarcasm in this post let me assure you it was purely intentional.
Originally Posted By Labuda re #258: Thtat would be even more widely hated than fastpass is in its current state.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad The biggest problem with this whole topic is that bottom line, anyone and everyone can GET a fastpass if they want it. However, having said that, I am just lucky enough that I never have to go to DL or WDW during the SUMMER. Having said THAT, I cannot imagine what the standby lines reach in true wait time during say July 4th weekend. I cannot wait over abour 40 minutes for a ride unless there is a place to sit down. I have too many young children.
Originally Posted By danyoung >The main reason Disney started the Fastpass system was so that people would be shopping or eating instead of being in line.< I'm not so sure this is the case. Perhaps it was a desired result for the Disney company. But perhaps FP was created as a means to actually HELP us poor park goers to enjoy our visits more. I know I sure make good use of them! >I think in order for the Fastpass virtual queue to really act like a real queue, it needs to be that you can only be in one line at a time. That means that when you get a fastpass, you are not allowed to go into any other ride line until your time comes.< Sorry, but this is just silly. Why would I go to the park and get a FP with a return time for hours later, and then stand around and do NOTHING for those hours? That would be far worse than just standing in the Standby Queue. This isn't a solution.
Originally Posted By LOUDROCK I welcome Fastpass because it creates options for us guests. It does not make one's overall wait in lines longer. Simple logic: A park has a definite or finite number of rides. A ride has a definite or finite number of guest turnover(servicing) per hour. 50K guests in a park with or without Fastpass is still 50K guests which need servicing. Assuming the population of guests in a given park remain constant the only way to shorten overall waits is if a ride's capacity increases per hour or another ride is added to a park's lineup.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA anyone and everyone can GET a fastpass if they want it. > Unless that attraction has used all of its FastPasses for the day. 4:00pm - Big Thunder and Autopia. Both should be practically walk-on -- both have a 45 minute stand-by.
Originally Posted By LOUDROCK "4:00pm - Big Thunder and Autopia. Both should be practically walk-on -- both have a 45 minute stand-by." I'll assume that this statement is accurate. But so what. what is the relevance to keeping or dismantling Fastpass. If Big Thunder and Autopia have longer waits due to Fastpass then 2 other rides(or one ride is significantly shorter, or 5 other rides slightly shorter) have lesser waits. The equation for overall or aggragate waiting is still the same.
Originally Posted By schoolsinger Here is a modified version of the suggested system. When you grab a Fastpass, you are locked out of the lines of all the rides on the Fastpass system (the most busy rides), until your time comes. While you are waiting, you can still go on non-fastpass attractions (the ones with little to no wait) while you are waiting.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Again, that still wouldn't work, unless Disney used your wristband idea, otherwise what would prevent a FP holder from using the standby line of another FP attraction?
Originally Posted By LadyandtheTramp ^^Since all of the park entry passes now have magnetic strips on the back, it would appear to be a simple matter of installing readers at each attraction, keying your pass for your fastpass time, and prohibiting entry until you use up the fastpass.
