Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>However I made my comment based on what I read another person complain about on another site (I'm not unique to LP you know..) so obviously this person was not accurate as well.<< This was bugging me and had to research it.. So I just got off the phone talking with my personal friend from the other Disney site, since I find her to be most trustworthy... Anyways..she says she got to Soarin on Dec 31st shortly after 10am and got a FP for a return time at 9-something PM. She was able to get another FP for Living with the Land sometime after 1pm but it was for a very late time in the evening, which she didn't use at all because the time-window was not conveninent and would force to choose from getting a good spot for the midnight pyro or ride The Land. Later that afternoon, at the time she was able to get yet another FP... there were NONE available anymore in the rides she wanted to see, TT or MS... so she gave it up. That's from the horse's mouth! and I am glad I learned something I didn't know before. After I got my FP for 'Soarin' at 9ish am... I really didn't pursue getting any other ones because I was with my parenta who are not able to walk fast all day long and as every one knows here... in roder to take advantage of FP, you *do* have to run like a chicken with no head all over the park to get your turn in line. It can be quite tiresome, and can't simply be done when you have parents in their 70s who are too proud and won't rent a chair to get around like most 40-60 somethings are doing at WDW because they can't carry their weight around.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Of course I'm kidding...< That's good to know! Without the smilies, who knows what the writer's intent is???
Originally Posted By Labuda "In response to #148, when I say "World-wide" I mean all of WDW. Same as when people refer to Disneyland as the Land and WDW as the World." "That's silly!" Agreed with TDLFAN. Especially in light of the fact that The Land is a pavilion in Future World @ Epcot.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <With you it is a playground and to me it is Fastpass. Is it possible to just let it go at that?< absolutely -- I just didn't want my words saying something I didn't -- and you have gone back and read what I typed ( thank you for taking the time to do that) - and have explained in detail above. I have no quarrel with you as a person or as someone with an opinion, it was as I suspected in your zeal to get a point across the message got garbled somewhat. I just wanted my position clear and I feel it now is...so yes I certainly can let it go. I appreciate your concern over FP driving people from returning, I guess I just feel there are some maybe that this couldhappen to, but I also think there are some who feel FP is a nice Disney bonus... it just depends on each families set of circumstances on how and why and how often they visit. As for the posts removed by ADMIN -- be glad you didn't read them, I did and can tell you this topic would have spun further out of control. sorry if you felt attacked as I know you are not one of the drive-by trolls that we have seen lately...that was not my intent, I was just upset that what I wrote wasn't what was being read correctly....it happens
Originally Posted By JHelba TDLFAN, I'm not sure how to take that "Smileys are only for people who have the need to be understood." I don't think one needs smileys to be understood, logic should suffice. Why, humans had no smiley's in the past and communication was just fine. If one's intent can't be inferred from logic and common sense than we're in trouble. That being said, I think your statment needs some smileys or a winking ornery face or something cause it's not quite clear.
Originally Posted By danyoung >...she says she got to Soarin on Dec 31st shortly after 10am and got a FP for a return time at 9-something PM. She was able to get another FP for Living with the Land sometime after 1pm...< I'd have to ask if she just happened to try around 1pm, or if the system locked her out. As I recall it's stamped right on the FP ticket when you can get another one, and as far as I know it's always 2 hours after you got the FP.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I'd have to ask if she just happened to try around 1pm, or if the system locked her out. As I recall it's stamped right on the FP ticket when you can get another one, and as far as I know it's always 2 hours after you got the FP. < this was the case the last time I was there - and that was last June
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden sjhym3, thanks for the info. On our last trip, mid-Nov, pre-Thanksgiving, the crowds were so light we only used FP once (SplashMtn) the entire week. I remember standing in front of Pooh when this guy walks up and gets 4 FPs yet there were at the most ten people in line. The stanby line had a posted wait time of 5 minutes, which would only occur if you waited four minutes and then got in line. It was strange because the guy never even stopped to look at how long the line was. He was in FP mode and that's all that mattered.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I'd have to ask if she just happened to try around 1pm, or if the system locked her out. As I recall it's stamped right on the FP ticket when you can get another one, and as far as I know it's always 2 hours after you got the FP.<< My girlfriend is a CM at WDW (in resorts), and she knows the FP system quite well, so I am sure she didn't try to get a FP before the 2hr blackout period. Plus, she did confirm to me that you have a max 2 hr window after a fastpass.. I will have to see if that is also the case at TDR...
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Excuse me.. Like Gay men are not allowed have have female friends??? In fact we have more than you straight boys do! Eat your heart out!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <It was strange because the guy never even stopped to look at how long the line was. He was in FP mode and that's all that mattered.< FP is not a miracle system, it does nothing to make stupid people smart - LOL !!
Originally Posted By DVC_dad HAHAHAHAHA !!! I dunno, the Fastpass system made me pretty smart, I had to learn to count when I began using it. "Okay guys, how many we need on this ride? Let's see, one, two, three, ... no no he looks like he could be 2 years old, lets use his to get a Fastpass for another ride before the 2 hour wait... humm ok lets get 4 for this one, I think these 6 of us can get on with 4 passes, and then we use the other 4 for that ride over there taking 5 of us on it. Ahhh... yes yes yes people we are getting smarter, muuuuuch smarter! "
Originally Posted By DVC_dad "... but wait there's more! If we game the parent swap...and combine that with that last Fastpass we can all ride again and REALLY STICK IT to the standby riders!!!" "Wait wait wait, get grandma and go back to the front and get us a wheel chair and to hell with getting Fastpasses!" "Okay spanky you start screaming that its your birthday and we ALL have to ride with grandma from the physically chanllenged entrance!" Come ON people, give it up. We have all seen so much craziness when it comes to getting on a ride... there's no solution and never will be. ...and for the record I never cheat at the que. I have kids who watch me every second and will someday do what I did.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad "... but wait there's more! If we game the parent swap...and combine that with that last Fastpass we can all ride again and REALLY STICK IT to the standby riders!!!" "Wait wait wait, get grandma and go back to the front and get us a wheel chair and to hell with getting Fastpasses!" "Okay spanky you start screaming that its your birthday and we ALL have to ride with grandma from the physically chanllenged entrance!" Come ON people, give it up. We have all seen so much craziness when it comes to getting on a ride... there's no solution and never will be. ...and for the record I never cheat at the que. I have kids who watch me every second and will someday do what I did.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I dunno, the Fastpass system made me pretty smart, I had to learn to count when I began using it.<< FP does make smart people smarter, and those (like me) who can see both sides of the coin and firly believe the cons outweight the pros... are made more vulnerable.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys My solution has always been that if FP is to be continued, that it be restricted to only one use per day in any given park. This would make guests have to chose what is really important to them. On continuos motion rides like Peter Pan and Buzz Lightyear where the line could theoretically always be moving, it should be eliminated completely and let nature take it's course.
