Originally Posted By lesmisfan and as for double the wait time, this comes from other guests, and cast members that experianced it at disney world.
Originally Posted By SafariRob I hope DCA takes a hard look at DHS and decides against FP at TSMM. It just doesn't work well there. Omnimover for TSMM? That's an interesting idea. A better (and more expensive) alternative would be to build a duplicate show building.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I really doubt it. They already have duplicate tracks within the one building, so I would be pretty shocked if they would build a second one. It's popular, but it's not THAT popular. Especially by the time they could get it built and up and running (2-3 years, minimum), I don't see the popularity still being quite as much. Even compared to the queues the first year or so, the waits are long but manageable.
Originally Posted By Ohana I'm not sure its popularity will wane. Even Buzz which I think is mediocre still has long lines on regular days. TSMM is a monster and I think it will continue for quite some time. Not only on its own merit, but it also is the only cool thing to do on the pier when adults or big brother goes on Screaming. Time will tell but I think its going to be a long term draw.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 And like we've said, the main problem isn't the extreme popularity, it's the guest intake it can handle. Space Mountain is one of the most popular rides in Disneyland, but at the same time it can have a 20 minute wait while TSMM still has a 45 minute wait. The popularity of the ride doesnt help at all thats for sure, but they need to solve this problem before it becomes not worth it to stand in line for this wonderful attraction!
Originally Posted By SafariRob >>But do they have the room to do that?<< They could relocate King Triton's Carousel to make room. They could move it to Maliboomer Park.
Originally Posted By Moon Waffle TSMM's lines will shorten when Mermaid opens. Finally another entire-family-can-ride attraction on the pier - and one that gobbles people.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 Let's hope it gobble's up people long enough for Carsland to open. Who knows how popular this ride will be. Does anyone if they'll be doing FastPass for this ride? I'm guessing not since it's basically like Haunted Mansion.
Originally Posted By Roger Rabbit Nowadays, if an attraction doesn't open with Fastpass, don't expect it to add Fastpass. Ariel's Undersea Adventure is opening without Fastpass! I think that's awesome!!
Originally Posted By ni_teach Roger Rabbit said: "Ariel's Undersea Adventure is opening without Fastpass! " That is correct because it doesn't need a fastpasss. The attraction will handle about 2,000 people an hour. Even with a long line it will move fast.
Originally Posted By TMICHAEL ^^^IMO, for the amount of people that TSMM pushes through and the size of the queue, THAT line continually moves also. OMG you have to wait for a good attraction: DEAL WITH IT!....or don't ride. Here's hoping Radiator Springs Racers has a huge immersive queue and also opens with no FP.
Originally Posted By oc_dean I jokingly call FastPass 'EVIL'... As I feel it does more harm than good. Turning stand-by lines into snail's paced nightmares! And the only way to nab some fastpasses for the larger rides, you either get to the park early, and hit it - commando style .... or forget it. I prefer my DLR trips more on the "relaxed" side .. and if I have to wait 1-2 hours for Space Mountain, Indy, Splash Mountain, then I must .. I or just have to say 'no'. And often, I do say no. Without fastpass, the day can be more spontaneous and relaxed, than this overly planned - "Run to Get FPs" exhausting, spoiling, rigmarole.
Originally Posted By twirlnhurl At DHS, Midway Mania has a capacity in the neighborhood of 900 PPH, according to a friend that works there. It opened with a higher capacity, but the most recent station safety gate modifications lowered it to its current number. I would be surprised if they added Fastpass to TSMM in DCA, because in DHS the line routinely is in the 2-3 hour neighborhood, and Fastpasses are usually gone by 11:30.
Originally Posted By lesmisfan yeah thats what i have heard from disney worlds toy story. Honestly i think people have been so spoiled by fastpass. I remember when I was growing up there was not fastpass for anything and all the waits weren't to horribly long and we all thought anything between thirty minutes to an hour was a great wait! you know how many kids and people complain about anything that is fifteen minutes and up! everyday i hear many people say, its fifteen minutes! lets just get a fastpass! i think fastpass is the reason why most big attractions have more waits then it should.
Originally Posted By SafariRob >>I would be surprised if they added Fastpass to TSMM in DCA, because in DHS the line routinely is in the 2-3 hour neighborhood, and Fastpasses are usually gone by 11:30.<< That's exactly what happened when I went last year. So, that's typical? It has to be a capacity issue. No other attraction at WDW with FP even approached those kinds of stats when I went. It has to be a capacity issue. FP doesn't work for TSMM.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think it's a combination of capacity and the other offerings in the parks. The families of thrill seekers have their choice for early morning FP, with TOT and RNRC right next to each other. For those looking for something a little more tame, there's FPs at Star Tours, but for those who aren't really interested in a thrill, there's really only one choice: TSMM. In WDW, folks tend to do a better job of planning their trip out than at DL (partly forced by the dining reservation system, partly because they're once-in-a-lifetime trips), so they know what to do first thing in the morning, including planning out a FP schedule for their entire vacation. The only other non-thrill FPs in the park are for Voyage of the Little Mermaid and Indiana Jones Epic Stunt Spectacular, both of which are shows that always manage to fit their entire queue into the next show. At DCA, people tend to show up later (parkhopping from DL, or just showing up late because everything happens late in southern California), emphasize FP less, and have other options for family-friendly attractions.
