Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> For all of you people who talk about "planning" and using FastPass to good advantage, why isn't just showing up earlier in the day a form of "planning?" << Took us a while to learn it, but my wife and I would take our kids to the park at opening. Early in the day was less busy, and we could do as much as we chose. We'd stay through lunch. That's when the rest of the world would show up and things got really busy. So we would always leave the park then, go back to the hotel, and go to the pool/nap for the afternoon. (Hottest time, too) We got away with this because we told the kids by doing this we would be able to go back for the evening, maybe even stay until closing. Worked too. The evenings were less busy than the afternoons. And by getting naps everyone was much less cranky.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> But also funny to watch you have a conversation with yourself. << Was I conversing with myself? Ooops! Well...at least at least it pays to quote the best, right?
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy Okay, my work is done here. Someone else will have to carry on for a while.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys ^^ Like anyone could get a word in edgewise. Man, you werew really hogging all the bandwidth. Now maybe a few of us get can our thoughts out)
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys ^^BTW, Can someone please summarize what ssWEDguy said. My head is spinning.!!!
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I lied. Here's one more FastPass flaw. They don't seem to make sure that the FastPasses are used when they are supposed to be used. If your FastPass says "Return between 3:20 and 4:20" that's when you should return. If you show up at 5:30, you should not be allowed in. The ticket has technically expired. But I've never seen anyone denied access when the ticket was late. I've only seen people denied access when they came back early. Thank goodness for that. So I can arrive at the park early, ride the ride several times, but then still get a FastPass for later. Then I can come back ANYTIME later in the day past my "reservation time" and still get on. A freebie anytime later in the day. Whenever I felt like it. So why wouldn't I take advantage of the system and go ahead and do that?
Originally Posted By danyoung >For all of you people who talk about "planning" and using FastPass to good advantage, why isn't just showing up earlier in the day a form of "planning?"< Exactly. And the way you outlined your day in post # 61 is exactly the way I spend every WDW day. Did you learn this from me???
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Did you learn this from me??? << danyoung -- Good call. We should start a consulting service.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy One more FastPass thing, and then I'm done for a while. I have to leave for work. Why not offer FastPass as an extra-cost option on your "Magic Your Way" ticket at the front gate? They charge you extra if you want Park Hopper, right? It's an extra cost option if you want your usused passes to not expire, right? Then why not an extra charge if you want to use FastPass? And no such charge if you don't. That way if you're being bypassed in a 90-minute queue you can at LEAST think "That person had to pay more."
Originally Posted By mrichmondj What was the #1 complaint at WDW before FastPass? - "The lines are too long." What is the #1 complaint at WDW after FastPass? - "The lines are too long."
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Why not offer FastPass as an extra-cost option on your "Magic Your Way" ticket at the front gate? << I'll even compromise. Everyone gets 2 free FastPasses to use for each day of their visit. They can use them or not. But the max is 2. If you want "unlimited" FastPasses on any given day (Only one at a time if course, like you are limited to now) you pay for an "Magic Your Way" option.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> "The lines are too long." -- before or after FP << I'm not sure I get this one. The lines may be long, except for the FastPather who works the system. But abuse of such a system can make long standby lines even longer.
Originally Posted By mrichmondj ssWEDguy --- I am with you. It just seems that people complain about lines no matter what system Disney comes up with. Regardless of what gizmo you come up with, people are still going to end up waiting in long lines somewhere.
Originally Posted By barboy ssWEd please tell me what is remotely interesting about either of Soarin's queue? Both attractions have pictures on the wall and that is it--What a first class bore. There are no 3 dimentional props or AA's. No engines or airplanes to look at-- no flight items are displayed just 2-D pictures---lame, very lame.
Originally Posted By NJFIREGUY I Was in a Rather long Stand by line at BTM during my last trip to WDW...I gotta admit I was Ticked when the FP People were walking by. Later I Cashed in a FP to get on Splash and thats when i realized "EVERYONE HATES FASTPASS UNTIL IT'S THEIR TURN TO USE IT". Ive been fortunate enough to need and AP in the past but most of the time I get to WDW but one week a year. I try to go off season and have been really lucky with the crowds, but have also been really unlucky some trips. Where i would have missed some of my favorites or only been able to them once without FP. Ive been to WDW Before FP and After I'll take after. My plan this year for Everest is to get there for opening get a FP and get in the stand by line. I have one day for AK and doubt i would have the opertunity to ride it twice without the FP. As far as the queue putting me in the mood...I was in the mood as soon as I hung up the phone with my travel agent.
Originally Posted By schoolsinger If Disney was to get rid of fastpass, would that mean we can go back to nice hard plastic annual passes instead of the cheap paper ones?
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> what is remotely interesting about either of Soarin's queue? << It's been almost 2 years since I've been in DCA, but I remember the air stuff they had on display was quite detailed. Yeah, it was mostly pictures, but it was themed by topic, and there was a lot of text to go with it. The queue at Epcot is much simpler. 3 or 4 HUGE (but pretty) pictures. And a lot of conservation themed questions and answers for the line. Not very rich at all. I'm not as happy with the queue at Epcot.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<FastPassing beautiful queues is worse than jumping into sex without foreplay.>> I don't think so. I can FastPass beautiful queues and my wife will still talk to me. Besides... even FastPass lines usually last five minutes. What more could anyone expect??? ;-)
Originally Posted By indysoarin19 DCA's Soarin queue has props. Just look up. Like you would to see a plane.
