Originally Posted By wdwfan1 Ok... My two cents and a question.. There many areas in WDW where the area that is considered a line is 5 to 10 feet across... My wife and I have disagreed about this for a long time.. Do you stay single file... I say no... you look ahead of you and everyone is on one side , while there is more then enough room to move ahead on the left.. Please clarify or give a opinion to this... I always moved forward to the left , but I never cut anyone off... is this different then cutting....
Originally Posted By TDLFAN It doesn't help the situation when CMs advise guests to "fill in all of the available space" They do this at TDR and burns me up So most lines have become 'hallways' because of the anti discriminatory laws that require enough space for scooters and wheelchairs to get thru.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic wdwfan1 I see it as this. If there is a single line to the right than yes, it could be considered as cutting. If there are two lines and the left line is shorter than the right than no. Maybe I just made it more confusing. I see cutting as someone who goes past you and other people in front of you saying excuse me, excuse me or what ever language they are speaking, just to get to the front of the line. That to me is cutting and that we don't stand for.
Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy << am a strong believer in what goes around comes around. One day when Lewis is trying to drive his sick or injured family member to the hospital and is stuck in traffic he's going to be cut off by those annoying drivers who drive ALL THE WAY up to the exit and then try to cut back on the freeway just to save themselves two minutes because they think they're better than the other drivers and are entitled to not wait in line.<< That is the cruelest thing anyone has ever said to me. You equate cutting a line at a WDW ride with someone who is seriously hurt and needs medical attention. The two are not the same. <<In my opinion there is something wrong psychologically with someone who cuts the line and doesn't see the slightest problem with it. There's definite moral development retardation going on there. You're supposed to grow out of the "ME ME ME" thing at a much younger age. As I said, what goes around comes around.<< I suffer from moral development retardation from cutting a line at WDW. I think thats a bit much. I see it more as a sport...to see how far in a line I can get. Do I have some sort of minor character flaw maybe but moral development retardation I think not!
Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy <<I'm 6'4" and 235 - and still play competitive hockey....a little tripping is still in my play book.....<< I am 6'5" and a lean 195 you would have a hard time tripping me.
Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy <<Well apparently Lewis thinks that he can intimidate people with his size.<< I am the nicest guy you would ever meet but just being big does intimidate some people. I am also very good looking and that also intimidates most people. I think my size and looks makes it easy for me to cut lines as most people do not even question me as I cut the line...they see my size first then my baby face and dimples and believe that I am just trying to catch up with my family. When I make my sad face at the front of the line that my family must have gotten on the ride without me, a lot of guest feel sorry for me. It is actually a little scary that more guest do not question me and believe me without knowing who I am.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal "I suffer from moral development retardation from cutting a line at WDW. I think thats a bit much. I see it more as a sport...to see how far in a line I can get. Do I have some sort of minor character flaw maybe but moral development retardation I think not!" I stand by my assessment. Check out Kohlberg's stages of moral development and match up your behavior with the stages. I'd rate you a 2. It's not cruel. You put yourself and your wants ahead of others who have waited longer than you. That's the "me me me" mentality and that's developmentally delayed moral judgment for an adult. I calls 'em as I sees 'em. And as far as the sick or injured person comment, it speaks to the fact that it doesn't matter WHY you want to cut in line. You have to wait your turn. You might not like it but that's the deal. And if what goes around truly comes around, it will happen to you one day at the most inconvenient moment. It's not cruel, it's karma.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<I'm 6'4" and 235 - and still play competitive hockey....a little tripping is still in my play book.....<< I am 6'5" and a lean 195 you would have a hard time tripping me. < doubtful
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "I suffer from moral development retardation from cutting a line at WDW. I think thats a bit much. I see it more as a sport...to see how far in a line I can get. Do I have some sort of minor character flaw maybe but moral development retardation I think not!" No. Sounds about right, GoofBall. I'm sure you have great karma.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic Lewis, you are so full of yourself it's not funny. People like you make me ill. One day you are going to run across the wrong person, I.E. VBDAD. Sounds like a little checking is in order here VB. It's not right that you do this. When we are standing in line with our children whom are waiting patiently to get on the ride, so should you. Then they see someone passing and want to know why they can't do the same thing. Cheaters never win and you will lose one day. It's a shame because you probably are a very nice guy but what you do makes you very ugly. Sorry
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> LewisGoofy is reminding me more and more of WDWTechie. << Naaaah. LG's typing skills are too good.
Originally Posted By jkayjs ssWEDguy to address your original point, no I do not think this behavior has anything to do with FP. It was around way before FP was ever thought of. Is it worse now? Yes but that is everywhere not just theme parks. It is a symptom of the already mentioned ME,ME,Me mentality. BTW Lewis hope you are exaggerating your appearence because otherwise we will all be on the lookout for you. I doubt you will ever get past one of us again. And let me give you a little lesson on physics, a carefully placed limb of even a child can topple anyone esp if it is unexpected. Believe me the next time I'm in line for KS I will be very verbal if a "very good looking & tall" fellow starts a sob story about riding with grandma. In fact I think I'll mention to the CM that I've heard about a CM that does this and perhaps that should be checked out. I'm sure this would look great on your record. Not exactly "The Disney Way". Of course I doubt that if you really do this that this is the only arena in which you behave this way. Actually you probably are the guy mentioned before that drives to the front when the lane ends. Do I let you in? You bet because I work in an ER and I would rather wait then be a party to an accident. I'm sure you are a nice enough guy you just hit a raw nerve with a lot of folks.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip If it comes down to Lewis vs vbdad I've got my money on vbdad. Lewis... line cutters are the worst form of scum. A CAST MEMBER that would line cut is below scum. In my opinion you should be fired.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic <<And let me give you a little lesson on physics, a carefully placed limb of even a child can topple anyone esp if it is unexpected.>> I agree. This is so true. How many of you have ended up on your knees by your own children? Lewis - your size and good looks don't mean anything if you don't handle yourself appropriately. We will all be on the look out for this self proclaimed good looking tall lean guy with dimples. {)
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden Ok, for our trip in May, I've decided to throw haymakers at every halfway decent looking guy in line. There shouldn't be that many anyway.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> to address your original point, no I do not think this behavior has anything to do with FP << I agree that line-jumping and FP are different phenomena. What I'm suggesting is that FP can be thought of by some as a form of line-jumping. So if that's true, then line-jumping in the standby line itself becomes more plausible.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> We will all be on the look out for this self proclaimed good looking tall lean guy with dimples. << Thanks, LewisGoofy. Now I'm in trouble because of my tall good looks and dimples.
