Originally Posted By Dabob2 Wow. It took all the way to #20 for someone to crap all over the OP. In the old days it would have happened within the first five. I guess that's progress.
Originally Posted By calgrl2490 this is true. i think the fact that my fam and i r going to DCA on the 1st day of our trip also shows some improvement. it was never worth it before, although we def wont be there 4 more then 3 hrs
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Yet it persists. Old habits die hard. >>> ... as do a great many flaws that the park opened with. Fortunately, it looks like most of those will be gone within a couple of years.
Originally Posted By barboy2 As for Disney habits, once you've been in a new Rolls Royce(DisneySea), a late Mercedes S class(Disneyland) or a fully loaded shiny Cadillac Escalade(EPCOT), it's hard to get excited about driving a rickety Yugo/laughable Olympic Pacer/body rusted Ford Pinto wagon(DCA). The more tear downs, rebuilds and additions at DCA the merrier; I am very excited to ride in that new and improved DCA. Mermaid will be top shelf, RSRacers and its desert camp is going to be a clear cut E experience, the main park entry will seriously beckon and the World of Color looks like a winner. Can't wait!! Now, to seriously address the OP: I really enjoy hanging out and watching(not riding so much) the very nicely done rock work/waterfalls/tree plantings and the ride itself of Grizzly River Run. The rest of the park is one big visual, and audio joke as for "Disney standards".
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "... as do a great many flaws that the park opened with. Fortunately, it looks like most of those will be gone within a couple of years." No one here talks about DL's inherent "flaws" and yet there are many. I'd be willing to wager that some of the same LP folks that have complained about DCA since its conception will continue to find fault with the place when the dust settles. Just look at the negative talk that's already stirred up over WOC. For some people DCA will always be DL's illegitimate retarded step-child no matter what Disney does.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Well, if I were the King of Disneyland I'd build a taller castle. Sleeping Beauty Castle is too short. <-- runs and hides
Originally Posted By tashajilek Thats all ya got? ok if i were the queen of DL i would get rid of the tiki room (keep the dole whips) and blow up innovations.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Oh heck yeah! We would rule an iron fist. Disneyland traditionalists be damned! lol
Originally Posted By DlandDug Innoventions wouldn't have many champions among the traditionalists. As for the Tiki Room, well, that one is worth fightin' and dyin' over. Dirty little secret about Sleeping Beauty Castle-- even Walt wanted it taller, but he couldn't afford it at the time. Herb Ryman even said in later years that they should raise the towers a bit. And I agree-- they are underscaled. But I would never want a monstrosity like that skyscraper with towers they have in WDW and TDL. It's very much out of scale.
Originally Posted By tashajilek I would also want to add something to poor run down toontown. Get rid of the go coaster and add a dark ride. Wouldnt it be nice if they had a dark ride on Walt? showing him creating Disneyland or something! I bet most kids dont even know who Walt is.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< No one here talks about DL's inherent "flaws" and yet there are many. >>> Sure there are. But they don't add up to DL having a) a generally negative view by the general public, b) attendance problems, or c) financial problems. At least none of those anywhere near the extent as DCA. That's the difference. Despite the problems (as any place will have), DL "works." DCA doesn't - or at least didn't. I'm hopeful that things are on the mend.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 DCA "worked" in its major raison d'etre - to extend guest stays and change the paradigm in Anaheim from DL to DLR. It weathered some heavy criticism but ultimately it did its job. After the macro level, many things did not work, and many other things did.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///DCA "worked" in its major raison d'etre - to extend guest stays and change the paradigm in Anaheim from DL to DLR/// Well whoopty do da to that! And how does that make me, THE GUEST, enjoy my day more? How would that make your day more enjoyable? I don't care if Disney made or lost a billion but I do care that the effects on Pirates are working, the parks are clean and that DCA has something to hold my attention like a RSRacers or the fully detailed, AA laden Mermaid ride. I don't run nor own the place(nor do millions of others who come to the parks) so I don't give a rip about Disney earnings or losses or the paradigm of Anaheim; just give me a dole whip and a bonafide E ticket and I'm fine.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Sure there are. But they don't add up to DL having a) a generally negative view by the general public, b) attendance problems, or c) financial problems." DCA has financial problems? Where did you get that information from?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Well whoopty do da to that! And how does that make me, THE GUEST, enjoy my day more? How would that make your day more enjoyable? > These are two separate questions. From the guest standpoint, some of DCA "worked" and some didn't. It has always been a mixed bag. Whether it "worked" from Disney's point of view is a separate question, and one also worth addressing.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Lets stop fighting kids! We can ALL agree at least DCA is sucking a bit less as time goes on, so thats all I care about at the end of the day. Its never going to be something out-of-the-box stunning, but as long as its fun, inviting and can keep my interest longer than 3 hours I'm there!!! (And sadly I couldnt even say THAT about the place at opening ) WOC looks AMAZING!!!! Cant wait to see that one. And hell even SSS turned out really nice. I mean WOW! It really is like a small jewel! ;D
