Originally Posted By RoadTrip The witches are fricking insane. Beaumandy was more amusing than they are!
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Wow, you gun control people are mean. I sure hope none of you owns a gun! However, I think you all should be prevented from ever entering a hardware store.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>It's not cute, it's not funny, it's hardly charming. What it is is bizarre, plain and simple.<< That shtick got old after a while.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney To come on here and post statistics about deaths caused by RIFLES, when people all over the U.S. are being murdered by semi-automatic guns and handguns everyday shows an ignorance and apathy on the subject of gun control not even worthy of response. Yet here we are...24 posts later. Time to let this thread rest.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Perhaps the Witches took on more than they could brew with this topic. However, cant we just stick to rebuttal, and refrain from burning them at the stake?
Originally Posted By Donny "cant we just stick to rebuttal, and refrain from burning them at the stake?" No,No they can't
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Most of it was rebuttal, and pointing out the fallacy of the study cited. But read #10 again and tell me it's not conspiracy-theory-nutso. It's perfectly fair to point that out.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer It looks like the problem is really handguns instead of rifles. That, then, is where we should be concentrating our efforts to reduce gun violence.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck I agree that their argument is flawed, if not ridiculous. I just don't get the sudden virulence toward their character. There is no honor in it, and I think the people around here are better than that.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I just don't get the sudden virulence toward their character.<< I think I'm in agreement with you here, actually. Those of us opposed to the Witches' posting "in character" have made their point time and again. No need to dredge it up every time he/she/they post a crazy black-helecopter rant. The two things are not related. And Beaumandy was NEVER more amusing than the Witches. Beaumandy was an ass.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I don't know. The witch schtick is okay on the Disney boards, but over here, it makes him look at best like someone that can't be taken seriously, and at worst like someone we should be worried will be the next person who shouldn't have had access to assault weapons.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Do you folks ever listen to yourselves? How many, I know there are some, identify yourselves by name? Is Dabob2 a family name? The Witches have always stayed in character but the message isn't any less valid then SSP's or Goofyernmost. We are all hiding behind a fake persona. And we have the mistaken idea that we can cut someone else down for using their internet ID on a board in which absolutely every one takes themselves serious to the point of anal leakage. Really, folks time for a reality check don't you think? This one really shocked me. I've been around this board for a long, long time and frankly I was befuddled by "The Witch's" when I first got on, but I found that the use of the shared identity was a way of softening and balancing the posts. In this case the discussion was serious and, correct or incorrect, it was against all your opinions. Don't agree with the argument, argue against it, cut down someone personally, and I am including Donny in this is childish and shows a total lack of class. Bad show, very bad show!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Is Dabob2 a family name?> It's an acronym, actually. But it's not a persona behind a persona. <In this case the discussion was serious and, correct or incorrect, it was against all your opinions. > But it wasn't serious. It started by citing a ridiculously manipulated op ed piece that only included rifles, as though it were a legitimate study. It quickly devolved (by #10) into conspiracy theory nonsense. Read #10 again and tell me that's serious (hell, tell me it's even rational.) I have no problem with people with serious arguments stating them and defending them. That's what this section is supposed to be. And someone like Wahoo can come here with more conservative points of view and be respected because both he and his arguments are worthy of respect. But not everything is. Birtherism is the obvious example - it's not an "alternate viewpoint," it's plain false and should be called what it is. Similarly, manipulative "studies" and black helicopter rubbish should be called out for what it is, and I don't apologize for that.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 And by the way, I should say that I've enjoyed the witches over the years on the Disney boards. Okay, it's a slightly weird schtick, but I generally like "slightly weird" (or even more than slightly) in the right context, and I've often laughed right along with his posts. But if you're going to come here and post rubbish, you have to be man enough/witch enough to have it called rubbish.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Thank you for all your responses. Even the responses we don't agree with are appreciated because they helps us see who you are inside and that's valuable information to be aware of. We're not here to win any popularity contests. We only share what we believe and know. There will come a time when many current secrets won't be secrets any longer. Many truths will come out. When they do, let's hope you all have the ability to deal with them. There are many conspiracies taking place all over the world. To NOT believe in conspiracies is naive and you all owe it to yourselves to dig a little deeper and find out what is Truth. If you don't see that the constitution of America is being tossed out in favor of evil agenda's that erode your freedoms, then you are turning a blind eye to the truth. Too many of you still seem to want to believe in the current politicians who are ruining America. That is your choice but the consequences of your trust may not prove to be to your liking. It would be interesting to hear how differently you come to regard the quality of your lives even just a year from now... ORWEN: And a special appreciation goes out to Goofyernmost, for taking the time to defend us Cauldron girls. If I can put up with all the verbal abuse I receive all the time from a certain nasty old biddy, I guess I can't put up with grumblings from a few disagreeable ducklings...
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Oh! Sorry! I meant to say that I CAN put up with grumblings from a from a few disagreeable ducklings.
Originally Posted By utahjosh This was interesting and relevant. He's got his own agenda, but it's good to see this point of view, too. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa98FHuaU0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...98FHuaU0</a>
Originally Posted By mawnck I gotta tell you, Josh ... short of crazy people on the street corner, and maybe infowars.com, "some guy on YouTube" is about the least credible place I can think of to find out about crime statistics. Needless to say, I didn't waste my time watching.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "The Witches have always stayed in character but the message isn't any less valid then SSP's or Goofyernmost. We are all hiding behind a fake persona. And we have the mistaken idea that we can cut someone else down for using their internet ID on a board in which absolutely every one takes themselves serious to the point of anal leakage. Really, folks time for a reality check don't you think?" Nope. You miss the point. We all have chosen nicknames here, but none of us, not even Donny, construct dialog "in character" as part of our posting, much less refer to people as "ducklings". When whoever is doing this does post in WE, it's usually based on some whacked out conspiracy crap, furthering the perception that the poster isn't dealing with a full deck.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>It would be interesting to hear how differently you come to regard the quality of your lives even just a year from now<< Isn't that what you said two years ago? Witches, YOU have to understand that this garbage about evil conspiracies and the big bad guvmint taking your guns away is not only idiocy, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. When the choice comes down to letting you overthrow the duly elected government vs. the duly elected government taking your guns away, then yes, guess what, they're going to take your guns away. And yes, I will fully support them when they do so. And however many guns you have, it's not enough to stop them. Regardless of who you are, the stuff you are spouting in this particular topic is paranoid nonsensical crap, about on the level with that Anime movie I saw a few months ago that tried to convince me that this Japanese dude was the reincarnation of the Buddha. "Dig a little deeper and you'll find the Truth" was EXACTLY what they said too. It just depends on where you dig. Dig too close to the septic tank and, well ....
