Federal judge orders end to wiretap program

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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "Jon, you tell us you are smart and nobody from my side can keep up."

    I never said any such thing.
     
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    Originally Posted By YourPalEd

    What's bugging me about these republican listeners, is they do a good job when it comes to me, and my jokes, and getting me my coffee and stuff, and reacting to what i want, but...

    While, they could have gotten warrants, or maybe not needed them, i think does not matter.

    If the nsa is only listening to known terrorists outside america, investigations and paperwork must have already occured.

    If not, then they are an illegal corporation, trolling americans for their buying habits, with our government paid by taxpayers. They steal our tax money, build up a 12 trillion deficit, and then refuse to pay taxes with everyone else.
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    <<"Jon, you tell us you are smart and nobody from my side can keep up."

    I never said any such thing. >>


    Here is what you said jon. Stop lying.

    "Is it me, or does it seem that people who call themselves conservative and take on certain right wing viewpoints have a harder time making rational arguments?

    I've been chatting with a few of these people on here, and there doesn't seem to be a one of them that can understand what's presented to them."

    "The question I guess I'm asking is, are there conservative intellectuals? "
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "Here is what you said jon. Stop lying."

    Apparently, you are unable to even properly parse a simple English sentence.

    But the way you did take it does show an underlying inferiority complex. Maybe you should get that looked into.
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    <<Apparently, you are unable to even properly parse a simple English sentence.>>

    You start a thread saying there are no conservative intelectuals then you try and spin out of it when your called out? Lame. You are telling us that you and the libs are the only ones on here who are able to debate with any real skills. I didn't see you start a thread about liberals and their lack of argument skills.
     
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    Originally Posted By jonvn

    "You start a thread saying there are no conservative intelectuals"

    Perhaps a class in English comprehension would help, in addition to the American history class.

    You know, community colleges really don't have any standards as to whom they will admit. It'd be OK if you flunked out of high school. They'll still let you in, at least in California.
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    Now you are acting like your bud STPH and ignoring the fact that I caught you in a lie....er....mis- statement. Lame again...

    If this is you showing us how superior your debating skills are compared to conservatives we are all just blown away!

    As far as community colleges go, I think they are great. But you don't need college to take you down in a discusson or to make money in this country. I will put my W-2s up against anyone on here who has a masters degree. :)
     
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    Originally Posted By YourPalEd

    I am not going to read anymore american history, except in snippets. My heritage in america from 1510 is enough for me.

    I think why republicans have such a hard time with cognitive thought, is they think they are hidden. They do not have the ability to discern motivation in others, because they do not want people to analyze their motivations.

    Like a cartoon image of an ostrich with it's head in the sand, the republican ostrich, thinks no one is looking at them.

    By constantly ignoring known facts, and insisting you cite them again and again, the republicans are using a blocking tactic, which is only used by someone who is guilty.

    The use of tactics that block vital information to, and from, the american people, can be construed as treason.
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    <<By constantly ignoring known facts, and insisting you cite them again and again, the republicans are using a blocking tactic, which is only used by someone who is guilty.>>

    What " fact " are we republicans ignoring Ed? For once can you give us an example to back up your ramblings?
     
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    Originally Posted By YourPalEd

    I gave you examples, you refused to even read.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<My last post explained it. It has to do with prior cases setting a precedent.>>

    <<One of these, for example, is the issue of standing -- a requirement based on Article III of the Constitution limiting the federal judicial power to "cases or controversies." If the plaintiffs in a given case lack standing to bring it, a federal court is powerless to hear the case regardless of the importance of the claims plaintiffs seek to litigate.>>

    No Beau, your last post DIDN'T explain it. Your last post quoted some mumbo jumbo which I don't understand. I want YOU to explain if for me using terms a layman like me would understand.

    Thank You.
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    <Ed is more outrageous than Beau, but probably more often correct.

    You don't need a weather man
    To know which way the wind blows
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    I am not thinking Ed was a 'weatherman' - nor would SDS claim..
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    < I will put my W-2s up against anyone on here who has a masters degree. :)<


    you're on, what are we playing for ?
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    I am tired of this discussion or I wouldn't even go here.....

    but I am sick of this crapola....it's time to end it here and now

    let's assume for a minute that you are 6 figures-- "most really top sales people are, and you say you're the best....unless you're making at least that per quarter we don't need to go any further. I don't want to hear any more about this "I'm really rich and I don't have a degree and you college people wasted your time, and were taught by all liberal professors".
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    I have people who work for me that likely make 3 times what you do yet none of them are blowhards about their salary or accomplishments. They are professionals...
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    <<I have people who work for me that likely make 3 times what you do yet none of them are blowhards about their salary or accomplishments. They are professionals...>>

    That is a rule most people go by who are not talking to blowhards on the internet everyday. In this forum you talk about all kinds of crap you would never cover in most in person meetings.

    I don't think I want to bet you on the W2 bet vbdad. LOL
     
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    Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom

    This past week I lost the life of a sister-in-law. She touched many lives. During her early career she was a school teacher in the town where she grew up, in a not so prosperous agricultural community. She later became an attorney again in the same town where she grew up. Mostly taking on court cases. There wasn't an evil bone in her body. She and her husband may not have made a lot of money. But she touched the lives of her family, friends and neighbors and helped make her community a better place for all. I only hope that I can accomplish half as much when I reach the end of my days.

    All people are valuable, all people deserve respect. All people deserve the right to Life, Liberty and Freedom.
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    <That is a rule most people go by who are not talking to blowhards on the internet everyday. In this forum you talk about all kinds of crap you would never cover in most in person meetings.

    I don't think I want to bet you on the W2 bet vbdad. LOL <

    Beau, you really shouldn't get into anything on here that you wouldn't in person either..to me that is a the mark of a person I would take at their word -- whether I agree with them on topics on not makes no difference as I am not the standard bearer for anwers any more than you are...but one should not make boasts they can't back up, it just makes a person look silly.

    and btw - whether it is your W2 or my W2 or most likely anyone else's here, in the world of 'real money' we are all paupers my friend, and money does not make the person ( I have been on both ends of the financial spectrum in my life and I am the same person, I just have more 'stuff' now ) - and education may not raise one's IQ, but it does enrich their knowledge base.
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    <<and btw - whether it is your W2 or my W2 or most likely anyone else's here, in the world of 'real money' we are all paupers my friend, and money does not make the person ( I have been on both ends of the financial spectrum in my life and I am the same person, I just have more 'stuff' now ) - and education may not raise one's IQ, but it does enrich their knowledge base.>>

    Well, I can't argue with you on this. I surrender. To bring up W-2s was stupid and not really my point. Thanks for taking me to the Woodshed. :)
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<I will put my W-2s up against anyone on here who has a masters degree.>>

    I don't have a Masters degree, but I will put my wife and my W-2's up against you and your wife's W-2's any day.

    And even if I don't win on that, my Johnson is a lot bigger so I STILL win.

    ;-)
     

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