Feds finally starting to act on global warming

Originally Posted By DlandJB

got to = go to

 

Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

<But no one is asking for a complete overhaul of our way of life...I mean its not like we are trying to make the US got to the metric system or something >

The Kyoto Treaty would have had a profound effect on our standard of living. That's why it was rejected by the Senate, and why most European countries who signed it have failed to comply with it.

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

^^Ironically we have done a better job of controlling emissions than many Kyoto signers.

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

>>We will be beholden to hybrid cars for the forseeable future, but that isn't so bad. Better emissions and lower fossil fuel needs aren't a bad place to be. <<

Its a start, but in reality Hybrids haven't made that big of a dent in the market. Ford had to scale back the number of hybrids that it was expecting to sell in the upcoming years after market research indicated that people aren't willing to spend more.

Diesel cars (used a lot in Europe) might be another possibility.

 

Originally Posted By DlandJB

Out here in California there is still a waiting list to get a Prius. I think the demand will be reflected in the price of gas.

No one should believe for a minute that the prices are going to stay low. And oh sad that what we are paying now we consider low.

We didn't sign Kyoto, so like so many circular arguments here, we need to get away from it and get to what we ARE going to do.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

"Seriously anyone who would claim that NOAA, NASA, the EPA, the Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center, U.S. Geological Service, the EPA, American Geophysical Union, the Energy Information Administration, Scripps Institute of Oceanography, the U.S. Global Change Research Program, et al…, are political and fiscally bias, yet refer to advocacy sites as not politically or financially motivated must be a complete moron."

Well, yes.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

The important thing is that we need to do what we can.

People say "this will hurt our economy."

Yes and no. A lot of money may be spent. A lot of money that will be spent on companies that do this sort of conversion. Creating new jobs and new economy. To claim it will wreck our economy is a bit misguided.

 

Originally Posted By CrouchingTigger

Money spent mitigating problems (e.g. climate change) is just increased overhead. It really doesn't contribute to overall productivity.

This is a cost-benefit analysis scenario. What is the cost of trying to curb (some) global climate change, vs. the cost of just letting it happen and dealing with it.

The problem is that we don't really know how effective our attempts at reducing it might be, and we don't know what the full impact (and cost) of climate change will be.

 

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Originally Posted By mele

Clear the decks! Clear the tracks!
You've got nothing to do but relax.
Blow a kiss. Take a bow.
Honey, everything's coming up daisies!

 

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Originally Posted By vbdad55

thread stuck ?

 

Originally Posted By tiggertoo

Let's see.

 

Originally Posted By fkurucz

>>Dijkstra was a commie liberal who tried to take our gotos away from us.<<

Here is a link to Dijsktra's original letter to Communication of the ACM journal, regarding the use of the goto statement:

<a href="http://www.acm.org/classics/oct95/" target="_blank">http://www.acm.org/classics/oc
t95/</a>

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

"It really doesn't contribute to overall productivity."

Yes, it can, if you use that money to develop technology. Not if you use it to just generate rules.