Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <And your response confirming yet again you're just here to be a painful rectal itch.> I'm not here to undermine your job. <Her position is very well known, but you knew that.> What I know is that her position is widely misunderstood. She's never said she would ban abortion in the case of rape or incest, and that's why you are unable to produce one.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "What I know is that her position is widely misunderstood. She's never said she would ban abortion in the case of rape or incest, and that's why you are unable to produce one." Bullschlitz. But you know that.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Bullschlitz. But you know that.> I don't know things that aren't so. Please present a quote of Gov Palin she would ban abortions in the case of rape or incest, or quit claiming that is her position.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder It's her position, I've provided the quotes. Enough with your crap.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <It's her position, I've provided the quotes.> You provided quotes, but none of them stated what you claim her position is. Anyone with basic comprehension who takes the time to read them can see that. <Enough with your crap.> But yours should continue flowing, right?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "You provided quotes, but none of them stated what you claim her position is. Anyone with basic comprehension who takes the time to read them can see that." Tell it to the Marines, big guy.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Asked in this interview if she would support legislation banning abortion, even in the case of rape and incest, Palin says yes. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEN-c0zRH1c" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...-c0zRH1c</a>
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Sorry, not just legislation, a constitutional amendment. Are we clear now where she stands on this?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>She's never said she would ban abortion in the case of rape or incest<< The clip above illustrates that she actually has said exactly that.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains This is from another thread here on LP. <<Palin opposes abortion in all cases, including rape and incest, except when a mother's life is in danger, and said she believes Roe v. Wade should be overturned and the decision given to the states..>> From this article <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/campaign.wrap/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITI...dex.html</a>
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Here's more: >>Q: What are your views on abortion? A: I am pro-life. With the exception of a doctor's determination that the mother's life would end if the pregnancy continued. I believe that no matter what mistakes we make as a society, we cannot condone ending another life. Source: Eagle Forum 2006 Gubernatorial Candidate Questionnaire Jul 31, 2006<< <a href="http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Sarah_Palin_Abortion.htm" target="_blank">http://www.ontheissues.org/200...tion.htm</a> Again, the lone exception she makes is if the life of the mother is at risk.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder You're confusing your ability to comprehend with Doug's ability to not see things that are there.
Originally Posted By hopemax I actually can see the point. I hate broccoli. I think it should be banned, and serving it to someone is akin to torture. But if I were elected, I would never actually try to make consuming broccoli illegal. It is not right to force my personal beliefs onto the nation. Kar2oonMan's first link, about supporting an amendment is probably the best. The other two, do a good job explaining what her personal belief is, but they don't necessarily explain what that would mean in terms of legislation. IMO, it takes a special kind of person to set aside personal beliefs for BIG issue items (my broccoli example is much easier). It's the same thing that comes up with defense attorneys "How can you defend..." I don't think Sarah Palin showed any of the signs that she is the type of person that can compartmentalize that way, so I think her personal beliefs would closely align with her legislative priorities. Others, think Palin is the best thing since sliced bread, and would undoubtedly see her ability to compartmentalize differently.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>but they don't necessarily explain what that would mean in terms of legislation<< But the first one has her saying that she would support a constitutional amendment to ban abortions, even in the case of rape and incest, with the only exception being the life of the mother. If she meant "except in the case of rape and incest" she didn't say so then. The charge by Douglas was that she'd never said that. The video clip shows her saying exactly that. Now, this is on the extreme end of the pro-life spectrum, and that explains why perhaps Douglas wishes it weren't so. But she said it, and every statement she's made since then doesn't make any allowances for rape or incest. She is vehemently anti-abortion in all cases except if it would save the life of the mother. I mean, she just is. And that's fine, that's her core belief, founded in her faith, so why try and pretend it isn't her belief? I haven't heard or read anything by her that says otherwise.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "The charge by Douglas was that she'd never said that. The video clip shows her saying exactly that. Now, this is on the extreme end of the pro-life spectrum, and that explains why perhaps Douglas wishes it weren't so. But she said it, and every statement she's made since then doesn't make any allowances for rape or incest." I must sincerely commend you. Truly. You have infinitely more patience with our resident pinhead than I do. It's just damn obvious where Palin stands on this, and to write what he has here is nothing less than an attempt to fan flames.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***How much did YOU pay in taxes to the US Government last year, X?*** Plenty, even though I've not made use of any government services save those that any international tourist would have access to. America is very determined to tax EVERYONE, in every place, who has even a remote connection to the country. Except PAC's masquerading as churches.
