Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Asked in this interview if she would support legislation banning abortion, even in the case of rape and incest, Palin says yes.> Thanks, K2M. I've read a lot about Gov Palin in the last few months, and none of the remarks I've read ever expressed her opposition to abortion as strongly as she did in that interview. While I could argue that her statement is still not as strong as what SPP is asserting, that's splitting hairs.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "While I could argue that her statement is still not as strong as what SPP is asserting, that's splitting hairs." You'd be wrong, anyway.
Originally Posted By dshyates Props to Douglas. That was as close to an "I was mistaken" as we are gonna get. But he did come back like a real stand up kinda guy.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You'd be wrong, anyway.> No, I wouldn't. Just as I wasn't wrong when I stated her position wasn't barbaric.
Originally Posted By Mr X So, doing away with degrees for a moment Douglas, would you say that lawfully forcing a rape victim to bear her tormentors child is closer to barbaric, or civilized? Sorry, but I swing "barbaric" on this one too (and as for Palin, it's not even "all or nothing" here since she SUPPORTS abortions in the case of danger to the mothers health. I guess mental health doesn't count on this one).
Originally Posted By dshyates Republicans don't believe in Mental Health. Those with issues in that areana are simply weak and unAmerican.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>><Asked in this interview if she would support legislation banning abortion, even in the case of rape and incest, Palin says yes.><<<< Sadly, she charged Alaskian women for their rape kits because they include the morning after pill!!!!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>As for California being "center-right" because they voted against civil rights, all I have to say about that is that some extremist groups poured time, money, and effort into influencing the vote.<<< Um X, the US is centre right. On the international spectrum of party politics, both the democrats and republicans are right of centre. The republicans being further right.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "No, I wouldn't. Just as I wasn't wrong when I stated her position wasn't barbaric." Of course you are. You know, actually, I wasn't harsh enough. Palin comes very close to being sociopathic. The thought processes that go into a belief system that can produce a viewpoint like hers should scare the hell out of everyone. Let's see. The act of incest is beyond sickening, the work of a person who deserves nothing less than castration without anesthesia. A female victim carries trauma all of kinds for the restof her life. Why not needlessly compound that by forcing her to carry a child to term that results from it. Then, forget all about how the child born from incest is going to live the rest of his or her life. The hell with the probable health issues involved, both mental and physical. Screw the mother and child. Palin chooses life. And how about the rape victim? That's torture of unimaginable proportions, not to say incest isn't either. Let's also make that victim carry around a reminder of her experience, and struggle with the concept of knowing it isn't the child's fault he or she exists, but just the same, the child is the result of something only slightly less desirable than death, and depending on the rape, maybe death was preferable. And hey, the child itself? Carrying around that stigma their entire lives? Piece of cake. Yeah, rape and incest victims everywhere are rallying around the idea that abortion in their cases certainly is unacceptable, that it isn't barbaric to make them keep the kid. After all, some ignorant, selfish sociopathic product of right wing extremism knows what's better for them. Let's not get their input, they're too busy picking out pink or blue onesies for their upcoming blessed event.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Sadly, she charged Alaskian women for their rape kits because they include the morning after pill!!!!> Now this one I know isn't true. While mayor, Gov Palin never charged anyone for a rape kit.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Not so fast Doug, it's not so cut and dried. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/21/palin.rape.exams/" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITI...e.exams/</a>
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh From the link - "Interviews, review of records show no evidence Palin knew victims were charged" This is all posturing by a Democrat after the fact. During the testimony on the bill to ban the practice of charging for these kits, the city of Wasilla was never mentioned. Further, the evidence indicates that the City "paid for the only two rape kits used in in 2000, and the two used in 2001." <a href="http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/274088.php" target="_blank">http://confederateyankee.mu.nu...4088.php</a> There's much more debunking and detail here - <a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ODA1YWM5ZjM2ZTU5ODliZTY2NTczMGUwZWYwNTVlMTQ=" target="_blank">http://article.nationalreview....NTVlMTQ=</a> It is cut and dried. While mayor, Gov Palin never charged anyone for a rape kit.
Originally Posted By dshyates Douglas, the Alaskan Legislature BANNED the practice of charging for Rape kits in 2000. So they were forced to pay for the Rape kits in 2000 and 2001. Palin was Mayor from 1996 to 2002. What about the 4 years before 2000?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "It is cut and dried. While mayor, Gov Palin never charged anyone for a rape kit." In other news, since DouglasDubh has proclaimed it so, we've never landed on the moon. "It was all a studio hoax", said the rotund, balding cynic, who has made a lifetime of clinging to paleozoic beliefs. "There's no concrete evidence the event ever occurred. NASA, particularly in the 1960's, was in the back pocket of ultra-liberal Kennedy types who were determined to see their slain messiah's ridiculous prediction realized in the mind of the public. Have you ever examined a moon rock? Those things could have come from anywhere. I found one in my head just the other day."
