Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>There is such a thing as a "career killing move". She made one.<< That's not what I'm asking. I am asking *if* she is fired, will that satisfy people upset by this? Is that sufficient punishment? Or will they follow where she works next and make an issue of this again? I know it was a dumb joke. And posting it on FB was beyond dumb. But there is also such a thing as an overreaction as well.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan So here is her apology. <a href="http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1061176331" target="_blank">http://www.bostonherald.com/ne...61176331</a> It seems genuine and sufficient to me, but what do I know.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Sure, but what's the statute of limitations on mind-boggling stupidity?<< Infinity. Like I said, this is frozen in time now because of social media. For 99.99% of the world, this woman is nothing more than this picture. Of course people should be smarter than this. Of course if there's repercussions for her employer, they have every right to let her go. I'm just talking about the larger cultural implications of social media. Every single one of us has done something stupid in our lives. Has it been photographed, posted on the web, then disseminated across the world?
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Reading the comments on various articles...people are acting like she murdered someone. She showed bad taste; she doesn't deserve to lose her job or rose. It's a ridiculous. I'm curious what her FB settings are. If her page was private, I find it more offensive that one of her "friends" would make one of her photos go viral. I get that nothing is every private...but that doesn't excuse the people to use the information they see against others.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 These are the times we live in, the media jumps onc rap like this and escalates things further than they should go...
Originally Posted By ecdc >>These are the times we live in, the media jumps onc rap like this and escalates things further than they should go...<< I suppose that's my point. This is just another way we have to adjust to the digital age. I'm really not trying to excuse poor or foolish behavior, just trying to point out that the consequences are often far more severe in this day and age. Twenty years ago, this woman would've done this, the picture would've been developed at the local one hour photo, and that's that. Of course it was tasteless (though I get the attempt at humor) and of course she should be smarter than posting it on Facebook. Like it or not, our interactions will become increasingly digital, and I don't love the idea of living in a world where no one can make a mistake, be stupid, have a moment's bad judgment, etc. I remember as a teenager I did something really stupid. It was thoughtless, if ultimately harmless, and I'm embarrassed to this day that I thought what I was doing was funny. But a few of my friends are the only ones who saw it. That was that. If it had been immortalized on Facebook or Twitter, who knows.... Don't we all have those moments? Maybe not, maybe I'm just a fire, ready, aim kinda guy
Originally Posted By ecdc Yes I'm at work today and yes I have all the time in the world to pontificate on the Interwebs.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Well, she, as well as her co-worker who took the photo, have been fired. Fired because people began harassing the company she works for with phone calls and internet posts. People who think they are morally superior to these to women and felt the need to make them pay. We are so screwed.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Let those without guilt cast the first stone. Typical hypocrite masses. That said, it seems as if boorish and obnoxious behavior have become something of a trend. However, some subjects are taboo. You don't shout Nazi slogans at a Jewish gathering, and you simply do not mock the Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier while at Arlington.
Originally Posted By KCCHIEF When I first heard about this......I thought she was an awful awful person.....but, then I saw the picture and I saw the humor Not the best decision she has probably ever made ....but to be fired ??? Good grief I honestly feel sorry for what she is going thru
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka I feel like her employers had no choice but to fire her. Any company is vulnerable but non-profits are especially vulnerable. I'm not really blaming them; the people they serve need the help.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda Too bad these two can't find the complainers and sue them for lost wages
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Too bad these two can't find the complainers and sue them for lost wages<< On what grounds?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Like it or not, our interactions will become increasingly digital, and I don't love the idea of living in a world where no one can make a mistake, be stupid, have a moment's bad judgment, etc. >>> At some point, society will have to adjust. Once the number of people with things like this about them online reaches some critical mass, society won't have a choice but to adapt. We're already far past the point with politicans in excluding the vast majority of qualified candidates that would do an excellent job because of some issue in their past that the opposition will use to make them unelectable. Although a terrible situation, we can live with it (barely) because there are so few politicans needed. But we can't operate the entire country's work force using the same standard of judgement, as there simply wouldn't be enough workers to go around.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda William, they can't sue, that's the point. But, it they could, I would think something along the lines of harassment.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I think employers may eventually start requiring people to sign a "morals" contract. This is getting ridiculous. Now that she has been fired, is that sufficient for her "crime" of poor taste and judgement? I bet not. I bet some will keep after her and make waves at wherever she works next.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka I don't even know how one would cover something like this in a morals clause. I've read people calling for physical violence against her, comparing her to murderers, saying she's a traitor and doesn't deserve to live in this country. It's spiraled into mania.
