Originally Posted By woody "Having been an investigator for 22 years, and having somewhat of an idea how these things go, yeah." I guess we'll have to see how it turns out. The law can go both ways. Libby has a bit of an out. That's the truth. No case is ironclad.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>Libby has a bit of an out.<< Yep, the presidential pardon. George's daddy used it for indicted members of his administration, too.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Yep, the presidential pardon.> Or a not guilty verdict. Woodward says he told Walter Pincus about Plame. Pincus says he didn't. Is one of them lying?
Originally Posted By woody "Yep, the presidential pardon." A pardon assumes a guity verdict. I predict the case won't get that far.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Actually, the first President Bush pardoned people who had been indicted but hadn't been tried yet. And he issued a pre-emptive pardon that covered people who hadn't been indicted but were under investigation.
Originally Posted By woody Bush is not going to pardon anyone. I think he will go the Clinton route. Pardon people prior to leaving office. The Libby case is in jeopardy.
Originally Posted By woody Oops, I mean "Bush is not going to pardon anyone NOW." The Libby case will be over or dismissed well before Bush leaves office. Bush can make his decision in 2008.
Originally Posted By AgentLaRue Meanwhile, back in reality: Fitzgerald opens new grand jury. <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10097830/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10 097830/</a>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<They are, far too secretive. John Dean's book was still the best explanation of this (and that only went up to 2004). That they practice self-serving leaking to the press when it suits them does not contradict this.>> <That doesn't seem to be what STPH was alluding to.> I can't speak for him, but I'd say he might well have been, or at least they're related. The Plame leak IS pretty much about the white house's self-serving leaks when it suits them.
