Originally Posted By dsnyron There are many rude people that visit disneyland and it seems to get worse all the time. They don't seem to have any consideration for other people.
Originally Posted By Sparrow It's not just at Disneyland. People in general seem to have gotten ruder and feel they are not held to the same code of conduct as everyone else. My boyfriend and I even call POTC "Flash Pictures of the Caribbean" as a joke now. Although I have been known to ask people to stop if it's excessive.
Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA i hate flash from camera's going on on dark rides. it ruins the whole moment of being on th ride and gives me a headache!
Originally Posted By hondo75 When we went to Rome last year we toured the Vatican and you were told not to take pictures in the Sistine Chapel. There were at least twenty guards there and if the caught you taking a picture they took you off to the side and made you delete the pictures before they would let you go.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "if the caught you taking a picture they took you off to the side and made you delete the pictures before they would let you go." Wow, makes me love America now.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "if the caught you taking a picture they took you off to the side and made you delete the pictures before they would let you go." Wow, makes me love America now.
Originally Posted By karlg Why does enforcing a clearly posted rule "make you love America now"? If they didn't enforce the rule, then soon there would in effect be no rule. Having someone delete the pictures they had no right to take is hardly draconian. When rules like no-flash photography are not enforced, then in effect they go away like is happening on Pirates and HM. It becomes mob rule and even people that would otherwise follow the rules say "what the heck" and start breaking them.
Originally Posted By bravebrother I have told this a few times on these boards.... Few years back on Pirates, some guy was taking flash pictures on my boat. I asked him politely twice to stop. He continued so I then told him if he took one more picture I was going to throw him and his camera into the water.... No more pictures were taken after that!!
Originally Posted By oredisneyfan it seems that with cell phones this has gotten worse because everyone has a camera at their disposal now. years ago a family on vacation had one camera and usually an adult would be in charge of that camera. since the age of electronics has changed everything, the rules have yet to catch up.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Why does enforcing a clearly posted rule "make you love America now"? " Because no one but a judge should have the authority to delete your photos. You should not be detained for refusing to delete your photos. They should only be able to ask you to leave WITH your photos. If the photos are illegal, that's for the courts to decide.
Originally Posted By Sparrow ^^^I agree. They can't make taking pictures illegal when they are for private use. They can only prefer that you not do it and ask you to leave if you do. Right?
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Sparrow, that's mostly right. But you can certainly use the photo or video in a money-making endeavor, just not for commercial use, which is a commonly misunderstood term. "Commercial use" means using a person's likeness to endorse some product or service. What you can't do is go to Disneyland, take pictures and slap them onto advertisements or commercials for your travel agency. To do so you would need to have a release signed for everyone in the photograph. What you can do is go to Disneyland, take pictures and sell them to people as prints. You can also sell them to news agencies for use in a story. You can put photos on your web site that is plastered with ads. You just can't use the photo to advertise or promote the web site site or news agency itself. So yes, you can go to Disneyland and take pictures not just for private use.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 When they make you delete the pics, I think it's really their version of "crime does not pay," i.e. we have a rule, you broke that rule, but you're not going to walk out of here with the fruits of having broken that rule. So breaking it did you no benefit. And the other people in here see us doing this, and won't be tempted to break the rule themselves.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones And in order for that to work, Disneyland security would have to be willing to kick people out of the park if they do not voluntarily delete their photos, and I doubt park management would ever consider that.
Originally Posted By ksargen *sigh* It used to be so much less common. Issues I see with flash picture people. There are a few type. 1) foreign tourists who don't speak English (or Spanish). We had some on one of our trips through POTC this week. Very nice seeming people, just no clue what the spiel said, or what anyone else was trying to tell them. 2) people who don't know how to run their own camera. LOTS of people I've met that have no idea how their camera works, or that you CAN turn the flash off. Gentle words to members of your party who may suffer from this could help, but sometimes you can get them to stop taking pictures if they can't turn it off. 3) selfish pig people who just don't care. LOTS of those around. Again, if common sense and manners WERE common, we wouldn't have to discuss them...
Originally Posted By mauimouse I remember back in the 70's (when rules were enforced)they wouldn't let my friend in because she had a USA Flag patch on the back pocket of her jean shorts (it covered a hole so she couldn't remove it). We had to go the hotel and buy her new clothes! Now everyone is afraid of the consequences of enforcing anything...it's sad.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Speaking of rude people and camera flashes.... Yesterday at the Toy Story 3 movie, someone took a few flash pictures at the movie, DURING the movie! At the beginning and end parts, they flashed probably 5 times. I couldn't believe it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <And in order for that to work, Disneyland security would have to be willing to kick people out of the park if they do not voluntarily delete their photos, and I doubt park management would ever consider that. > DL, no. The Vatican, obviously yes. There's still nothing wrong with DL taking the offenders aside and telling them to knock it off, and why. There are some people who are so selfish they just won't care and will keep doing it. But there are plenty of others who won't understand WHY you shouldn't take the pics, and when it's explained to them they will get it.
Originally Posted By eeyorelover I just returned from a trip to New York/New Jersey and we went to Six Flags Great Adventure. They have rules posted at the entrance to every ride regarding the taking of pictures and other things including the use of foul language. They have even gone so far as to have lockers at the entrance of every ride where you have to store all your loose items, including cells phones and fanny packs. If someone is caught breaking the rules (almost all rides have video surveillance) they escort you from the ride directly to a security guard. In the case of photos (I actually saw this happen) they delete the photos and have the option of having the offender ejected from the park. Their theory is that everyone is paying good money to enter the park and why should someone have the right to ruin another's good time by behaving rudely.
